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Illinois judge removes Trump from ballot because of ‘insurrectionist ban’ (www.cnn.com)
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In a surprise move, an Illinois judge has removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s ballot based on the 14th Amendment’s so-called “insurrectionist ban.”

The decision is paused, giving Trump a short period of time to appeal.

Wednesday’s unexpected decision comes as a similar anti-Trump challenge from Colorado is pending before the US Supreme Court, which is widely expected to reject arguments that Trump is barred from office.

Cook County Circuit Judge Tracie Porter heavily relied on the prior finding by the Colorado Supreme Court, calling Colorado’s “rationale compelling.”

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[–] 134 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

It is still crazy to me, he is responsible for an insurrection and still gets the option to run for President. Every time I've talked about it on twitter some right-winger will bring up it was mostly peaceful and some other event that has nothing to do with anything lol.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is an important lesson in Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Trump is very much a narcissist). Narcissists use vague and ambiguous language, usually rapid fire, in order to confuse and disorient listeners. The term is called Narcissistic Word Salad. It means that he can rile people up to commit an insurrection while at the same time be legally protected because he never directly commanded January 6ers to do what they did with clear and pointed language. All of his communication is very obviously crafted to manipulate and obfuscate, and it's how he's managed to keep his crime empire afloat for decades.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I thought he spoke vaguely cause he knows he's commiting crimes and has some semblance of tact about it (to save himself of course) not a great one but something. I never realized it could be another part of narcissism. I

    There needs to be a law for a limit, like yes you used vague language but you did it 50 (random number but something that shows a pattern) times that's enough to charge you for your actions.

    I wonder what actual organized crime bosses think of him, he must have dealt with them in construction in the 80s and 90s.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    because at no time since this nation was founded was it considered possible for a president of this country to be under the thrall of a hostile foreign power and want to overthrow it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I dunno. I think that impeachment probably considered this in a time when there were still many who supported the British.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    Yup. They clearly thought individuals could be compromised. Their falling was in not considering the possibility that more than half the people leading the 3 branches of the federal government could all be in cahoots.

    They thought the self interest of the individual states would keep them independent.

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