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People who were fired on their first day at work/saw somebody get fired their first day at work: What happened that led to the firing? (lemmy.world)
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[+] -95 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Well... I've run into people here on Lemmy that legit believe that it's okay to take your workers out to a drag show as a corporate event.

So I'm sure that there's plenty of people that believe that softcore porn is on the table during work hours.

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  • [+] -74 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Drag shows are not necessarily pornographic,

    Sure... But you're using a bad example. And I think that's part of the point... lots of people are lumping things in that just isn't a "drag show" into it to make it out that people like me are anti-whatever.

    If we use your example... It's not a drag show... it's a character. One that was put on specifically for comedy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Edna_Everage "Drag" isn't even mentioned on the page. Dressing in drag and putting on a comedy show isn't the same as a "drag show". Eg. RuPaul's proclivity to pole dance and emulate sexual acts on that particular televised series.

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  • [+] -46 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The way you’re equating all drag performance with pornography or “lewd acts” is equally ridiculous.

    I specifically AGREED with you that you were right that all shows are not necessarily pornographic... The fuck dude? Are you dumb?

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  • [+] -39 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No... mandating a corporate retreat to be at any potentially sexual shows are or anything even remotely related to those topics. But you're so hung up on some random fucking minutia that you can't see the forest for the trees.

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  • [+] -20 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Also there are absolutely workplaces that include borderline sexual content in after work events, including movies!

    Any place that MANDATES this would be sued. So no. You're wrong.

    You can bring up whatever platitudes you want about "cam girls". Mandating ANYTHING sexual in any form is literally company authorized sexual harassment. It's a big no-no.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Why is drag sexual to you?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Shows can range from burlesque-style, adult themed nightclub acts to all-ages events with sing-alongs and story times.

    From their own link. It's not "me".

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hmm, seems like all ages isn't sexual.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So you ignore the former due to the latter? And then expect to have a reasonable conversation on the matter.

    So Hitler was okay because in his life he ranged from Genocidal maniac to an artist?

    You guys are fucking crazy.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it's almost like there's nuance with this topic. Drag is not inheritly sexual.

    You didn't just bring up Hitler in a conversation about drag, right? That's pretty fucking crazy.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it’s almost like there’s nuance with this topic. Drag is not inheritly sexual.

    And yet it's used by a source that I didn't bring up to help describe it. Almost... like... it actually is. But you do you.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Dressing in drag and putting on a comedy show isn’t the same as a “drag show”.

    yes it is?

    you're thinking of burlesque. Burlesque has implied nudity, drag shows are comedic.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    From the link @cypher linked at this post https://lemmy.world/comment/2475000.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_show

    A drag show is a form of entertainment performed by drag artists impersonating men or women, typically in a bar or nightclub. Shows can range from burlesque-style, adult themed nightclub acts to all-ages events with sing-alongs and story times.

    Using sources that people have linked AGAINST me... It shows the same thing I've been talking about. Just because all of them aren't this way doesn't mean that it's magically okay to do as a mandated corporate event.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just because you don't highlight 'all ages events' doesn't mean it's not part of the quote

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    It's in the quote as a RANGE of possibilities. Meaning that the show ranges from NR18 to PG. The fact that half of the range is inappropriate for corporate events is literally sufficient evidence that it's not suited for a MANDATED corporate event.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Is going to a movie theater inappropriate for a corporate event? After all, movies range from NC17 to G also. You might say no, you can choose what movie to see and it's simple to pick one that's not graphic and appropriate for work. And I would say, it's the same way with drag shows.

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