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When talking to people who dislike UBI about UBI, they'll often say both that 'people need a purpose in life' and that 'nobody will work if they get free money'. (lemm.ee)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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Those seem incompatible to me.

(UBI means Universal Basic Income, giving everyone a basic income, for free)

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[–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If I could afford to only work 4 days a week, those 4 days would most likely be a lot more productive as I would have time to get treatment for my chronic illnesses.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I have been told by HR last year to use my surplus vacation days somewhere. I used them on every Monday for half a year. I got not only more productive, but also less stressed. It works.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah as an industrial/human factors engineer it’s our profession’s dirty little secret. It doesn’t apply to every job, but improvement to work quality does. Reducing shift length also does. Hours 7-8 are rarely very productive for thinky workers.

    Unfortunately nobody has managed to successfully explain the concept of mathematics or empirical evidence to businesspeople. Sometimes I wonder if they have thoughts beyond gut instinct.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I can manage financially with 2 days of work a week, and I'm now at a point where I would not want to scale back because my work would become of lower quality. Every Monday would be like coming back from a vacation, and I think I'd lose touch and feel with the job.

    Those 5 days weekend sure give me time for personally enriching hobbies!

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Society couldn't function if most people worked like you. I'm happy for you and it's the exact place I want to be but I think its only possible in our current framework.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    With increasing automation, it could totally work soon

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Also, a fair bit of work is work for the sake of work. It doesn’t enrich society, just the capitalism machine. So if UBI were enacted on a large scale, there is plenty of unnecessary work that can go by the wayside.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It actually could. Imagine if salary had increased in accordance to the productivity boosts that automation has brought. Then you could have 3 people, working 2 days a week, sharing a job and being able to live from it. After all, it used to take more than 3 people to do the work a single person does nowadays.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why would a business pay for these things that make their workers more efficient and then relinquish all of the profit that came from making things more efficient?

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