▲ 193 ▼ Do Huawei phones have a secret backdoor that the Chinese government can access? (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by skeezix@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world 77 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Lemminary@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (3 children) Why do these threads always circle back to the US? It's always the obnoxious "USA bad because other country bad" And no, I'm not American permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] olutukko@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's just pointing out that chinese are not the only people to spy on you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I'm aware, but if that's the answer why not include other nations, then? It's always just the US and I find that very curious and kind of annoying when any criticism is drawn to China on Lemmy. It's always the same knee-jerk reaction. Because from what I see, the degree to which that happens is kind of wide and involves way more countries than just the US and China. Source permalink fedilink source parent [–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because asking whether a chinese phone is spying on you is a loaded question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) How is it a loaded question if the answer is a resounding "yes, it's not a secret"? I think you mean that it's a narrow question. If the answer is "but look at all these other nations" it would've been more than China and the US. By your logic, it's also quite a loaded answer, then, don't you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The US is often used as a synecdoche for the five eyes, the "western world", nato, etc. Stop being so obtuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The US is a very different country than any of the 30 other NATO members and often acts in direct conflict with the rest of the Western world. If I did the same and used China to represent the entirety of Asia I'd get chewed out for it, so why is the USA the face of all things people disagree with on this side of the world? Besides, using the US to contrast China creates a false dichotomy and oversimplifies the issue of mass surveillance, obfuscating both the extent and the nuance that people here claim to champion. Stop being so thick. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] olutukko@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's just pointing out that chinese are not the only people to spy on you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I'm aware, but if that's the answer why not include other nations, then? It's always just the US and I find that very curious and kind of annoying when any criticism is drawn to China on Lemmy. It's always the same knee-jerk reaction. Because from what I see, the degree to which that happens is kind of wide and involves way more countries than just the US and China. Source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I'm aware, but if that's the answer why not include other nations, then? It's always just the US and I find that very curious and kind of annoying when any criticism is drawn to China on Lemmy. It's always the same knee-jerk reaction. Because from what I see, the degree to which that happens is kind of wide and involves way more countries than just the US and China. Source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) Because asking whether a chinese phone is spying on you is a loaded question. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) How is it a loaded question if the answer is a resounding "yes, it's not a secret"? I think you mean that it's a narrow question. If the answer is "but look at all these other nations" it would've been more than China and the US. By your logic, it's also quite a loaded answer, then, don't you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The US is often used as a synecdoche for the five eyes, the "western world", nato, etc. Stop being so obtuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The US is a very different country than any of the 30 other NATO members and often acts in direct conflict with the rest of the Western world. If I did the same and used China to represent the entirety of Asia I'd get chewed out for it, so why is the USA the face of all things people disagree with on this side of the world? Besides, using the US to contrast China creates a false dichotomy and oversimplifies the issue of mass surveillance, obfuscating both the extent and the nuance that people here claim to champion. Stop being so thick. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) How is it a loaded question if the answer is a resounding "yes, it's not a secret"? I think you mean that it's a narrow question. If the answer is "but look at all these other nations" it would've been more than China and the US. By your logic, it's also quite a loaded answer, then, don't you think? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The US is often used as a synecdoche for the five eyes, the "western world", nato, etc. Stop being so obtuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The US is a very different country than any of the 30 other NATO members and often acts in direct conflict with the rest of the Western world. If I did the same and used China to represent the entirety of Asia I'd get chewed out for it, so why is the USA the face of all things people disagree with on this side of the world? Besides, using the US to contrast China creates a false dichotomy and oversimplifies the issue of mass surveillance, obfuscating both the extent and the nuance that people here claim to champion. Stop being so thick. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) The US is often used as a synecdoche for the five eyes, the "western world", nato, etc. Stop being so obtuse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The US is a very different country than any of the 30 other NATO members and often acts in direct conflict with the rest of the Western world. If I did the same and used China to represent the entirety of Asia I'd get chewed out for it, so why is the USA the face of all things people disagree with on this side of the world? Besides, using the US to contrast China creates a false dichotomy and oversimplifies the issue of mass surveillance, obfuscating both the extent and the nuance that people here claim to champion. Stop being so thick. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) The US is a very different country than any of the 30 other NATO members and often acts in direct conflict with the rest of the Western world. If I did the same and used China to represent the entirety of Asia I'd get chewed out for it, so why is the USA the face of all things people disagree with on this side of the world? Besides, using the US to contrast China creates a false dichotomy and oversimplifies the issue of mass surveillance, obfuscating both the extent and the nuance that people here claim to champion. Stop being so thick. permalink fedilink source parent