I get you, but I also think there's value in considering how these kinds of conversations affect people who are neither vegetarian nor vegan.

If you create a permission structure for 10 meat eaters to write off the whole group as extremist crazies, while you're trying to bully 1 vegetarian, who might be, maybe, bullied into veganism, that's still a net loss of a whole lot of animals.

Also, this isn't a veg friendly space. Having conversations like this among other veg*ns is entirely a different affair than doing it in an environment where the average response is just "hell no, I love my meat"

Is it really that hard to care about both?

When you're put in charge of making food for people and choice of food is up to you?

Not really the point of my comment.

I suppose ethics is a spectrum.

Not sure why this needs to go off piste. It's like saying I don't shoot and eat [animal] for sustenance, I milk [animal] for sustenance. It's up to individuals to decide if that is conscionable or not, maybe impacted by whether you think they're inconsistent and maybe not.

I'm not the person you responded to, but I'm another crazy chicken person. I have three ladies and one boy chicken. They have a half acre to run around on typically, but right now I have them in the plot where we grow vegetables so they can break up and fertilize the ground.

Having a rooster for free range chickens is, in my opinion, 100% necessary. My roo does a good job of herding the ladies into the coop when he sees a hawk or anything else he thinks is dangerous. He also makes sure all three hens get food, instead of one of them eating everything. When the sun goes down, he rounds up the girls and they head into the coop to sleep. Here is a pic of my roo, he's quite the gentleman.