β² 437 βΌ "Reaching people on the internet in 2022" by The Oatmeal (files.mastodon.social) submitted 2 years ago by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/comics@lemmy.ml 31 comments fedilink hide all child comments @oatmeal@mastodon.social more detailed source
[+] starbreaker@kbin.social -77 points 2 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 59 points 2 years ago (5 children) I have no idea what you're on about. The fact that all of them did it means nobody did it out of specific stupidity, and that it was just very difficult to see it coming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] jlow@beehaw.org 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm also not sure it's the fault of "creative" people. If people only visit closed systems like FB / Insta / Tiktok etc. are creatives to jist not post there? (In an ideal world obviously not but ...) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago As soon as you start calling yourself a "creative" you've lost the point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm playing devil's advocate here, but I've actually heard from old timers in the Internet business warning that this was an actual problem for influencers back in 2012, so some people saw it coming and who doesn't deserve some blame for lack of risk management. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aniki@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I agree, the 'old timers' are the people who have been on the internet since the beginning, warning the new boom of influencers about how they are still relevant on the internet for the last 20/30 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Especially with the way these companies positioned themselves. Google and Apple were the anti-Microsoft. Google even had the motto donβt be evil. Facebook was started by one of us! A hacker nerd dropout who loved open source. Of course heβs on our side! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It was not difficult to see where it was headed, even at the very beginning. It was just impossible to do anything about. When the majority of the common users only visit one site, and Google starts promoting that site above all others, burying relevant results, you have little choice but to put your stuff on that site. Matt (the guy who drew the cartoon) has been trying to migrate off of Facebook pretty much forever, but people don't care. permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -41 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why should anyone be blamed for something over which they have no control? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you produce content, you 100% control where that content goes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago But you're not in control of the knowledge of the consequences of that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -29 points 2 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's unfair for to happen This does not make what happened those people's fault Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DrPop@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago Creatives post they're stuff anywhere and everywhere. It's a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) asdfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Creatives" are idiots then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Good talk permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive. And don't get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won't get you anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sordid@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You think thatβs unfair? Guess what, so do I They deserve no sympathy Pick one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] Kaidao@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who are βcreativeβ people? This is such a strange and vague demographic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't give this guy any time. He's advocating for executing all Republicans in another thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Which thread? Sounds peachy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://kbin.social/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/681722/-/comment/3961758 permalink fedilink source parent [β] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago Yes, and it's not just creative types. There's a whole lot of people building their businesses on top of other people's businesses, and being super surprised when the rug gets pulled because the line went down. We need a way for people to discover things based on other things they like, without money getting in the way and fucking everything up. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 59 points 2 years ago (5 children) I have no idea what you're on about. The fact that all of them did it means nobody did it out of specific stupidity, and that it was just very difficult to see it coming. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] jlow@beehaw.org 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm also not sure it's the fault of "creative" people. If people only visit closed systems like FB / Insta / Tiktok etc. are creatives to jist not post there? (In an ideal world obviously not but ...) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago As soon as you start calling yourself a "creative" you've lost the point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm playing devil's advocate here, but I've actually heard from old timers in the Internet business warning that this was an actual problem for influencers back in 2012, so some people saw it coming and who doesn't deserve some blame for lack of risk management. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aniki@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I agree, the 'old timers' are the people who have been on the internet since the beginning, warning the new boom of influencers about how they are still relevant on the internet for the last 20/30 years. permalink fedilink source parent [β] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Especially with the way these companies positioned themselves. Google and Apple were the anti-Microsoft. Google even had the motto donβt be evil. Facebook was started by one of us! A hacker nerd dropout who loved open source. Of course heβs on our side! permalink fedilink source parent [β] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It was not difficult to see where it was headed, even at the very beginning. It was just impossible to do anything about. When the majority of the common users only visit one site, and Google starts promoting that site above all others, burying relevant results, you have little choice but to put your stuff on that site. Matt (the guy who drew the cartoon) has been trying to migrate off of Facebook pretty much forever, but people don't care. permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -41 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why should anyone be blamed for something over which they have no control? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you produce content, you 100% control where that content goes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago But you're not in control of the knowledge of the consequences of that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -29 points 2 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's unfair for to happen This does not make what happened those people's fault Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DrPop@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago Creatives post they're stuff anywhere and everywhere. It's a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) asdfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Creatives" are idiots then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Good talk permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive. And don't get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won't get you anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sordid@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You think thatβs unfair? Guess what, so do I They deserve no sympathy Pick one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] jlow@beehaw.org 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm also not sure it's the fault of "creative" people. If people only visit closed systems like FB / Insta / Tiktok etc. are creatives to jist not post there? (In an ideal world obviously not but ...) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago As soon as you start calling yourself a "creative" you've lost the point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 years ago As soon as you start calling yourself a "creative" you've lost the point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm playing devil's advocate here, but I've actually heard from old timers in the Internet business warning that this was an actual problem for influencers back in 2012, so some people saw it coming and who doesn't deserve some blame for lack of risk management. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aniki@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I agree, the 'old timers' are the people who have been on the internet since the beginning, warning the new boom of influencers about how they are still relevant on the internet for the last 20/30 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aniki@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I agree, the 'old timers' are the people who have been on the internet since the beginning, warning the new boom of influencers about how they are still relevant on the internet for the last 20/30 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago I agree, the 'old timers' are the people who have been on the internet since the beginning, warning the new boom of influencers about how they are still relevant on the internet for the last 20/30 years. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago Especially with the way these companies positioned themselves. Google and Apple were the anti-Microsoft. Google even had the motto donβt be evil. Facebook was started by one of us! A hacker nerd dropout who loved open source. Of course heβs on our side! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago It was not difficult to see where it was headed, even at the very beginning. It was just impossible to do anything about. When the majority of the common users only visit one site, and Google starts promoting that site above all others, burying relevant results, you have little choice but to put your stuff on that site. Matt (the guy who drew the cartoon) has been trying to migrate off of Facebook pretty much forever, but people don't care. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] starbreaker@kbin.social -41 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why should anyone be blamed for something over which they have no control? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you produce content, you 100% control where that content goes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago But you're not in control of the knowledge of the consequences of that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -29 points 2 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's unfair for to happen This does not make what happened those people's fault Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DrPop@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago Creatives post they're stuff anywhere and everywhere. It's a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) asdfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Creatives" are idiots then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Good talk permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive. And don't get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won't get you anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sordid@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You think thatβs unfair? Guess what, so do I They deserve no sympathy Pick one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Why should anyone be blamed for something over which they have no control? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you produce content, you 100% control where that content goes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago But you're not in control of the knowledge of the consequences of that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -29 points 2 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's unfair for to happen This does not make what happened those people's fault Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DrPop@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago Creatives post they're stuff anywhere and everywhere. It's a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) asdfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Creatives" are idiots then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Good talk permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive. And don't get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won't get you anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sordid@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You think thatβs unfair? Guess what, so do I They deserve no sympathy Pick one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) If you produce content, you 100% control where that content goes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago But you're not in control of the knowledge of the consequences of that. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 1 point 2 years ago But you're not in control of the knowledge of the consequences of that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] starbreaker@kbin.social -29 points 2 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's unfair for to happen This does not make what happened those people's fault Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DrPop@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago Creatives post they're stuff anywhere and everywhere. It's a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) asdfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Creatives" are idiots then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Good talk permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive. And don't get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won't get you anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sordid@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You think thatβs unfair? Guess what, so do I They deserve no sympathy Pick one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's unfair for to happen This does not make what happened those people's fault Its the fault of the shitheads who run the sites and actually make those decisions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] starbreaker@kbin.social -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) All these people are under the whims of the shitheads; these sites are intentionally manipulative, so realistically most don't have a choice. The billionaires, however, do. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DrPop@lemmy.one 11 points 2 years ago Creatives post they're stuff anywhere and everywhere. It's a lot of work. They are just trying to get by like the rest of us. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) asdfasdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Creatives" are idiots then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Good talk permalink fedilink source parent [+] starbreaker@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent
[β] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) "Creatives" are idiots then. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago Good talk permalink fedilink source parent
[+] starbreaker@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) asdfasf permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Masimatutu@mander.xyz [S] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Justice is only one (overly simplistic) way of organising humans. It exists to discourage behaviour that harms others, but in my opinion it is way better to encourage people to do things for the better instead. Humans are cooperative creatures and a social order based entirely on tension is extremely unproductive. And don't get me wrong, a lot of things in society deserve to be criticised and discouraged. But dealing in absolutes and assigning blame to an entire group of people is almost always overly simplistic and won't get you anywhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Sordid@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) You think thatβs unfair? Guess what, so do I They deserve no sympathy Pick one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] starbreaker@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[β] Kaidao@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Who are βcreativeβ people? This is such a strange and vague demographic permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't give this guy any time. He's advocating for executing all Republicans in another thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Which thread? Sounds peachy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://kbin.social/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/681722/-/comment/3961758 permalink fedilink source parent
[β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't give this guy any time. He's advocating for executing all Republicans in another thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Which thread? Sounds peachy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://kbin.social/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/681722/-/comment/3961758 permalink fedilink source parent
[β] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Which thread? Sounds peachy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://kbin.social/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/681722/-/comment/3961758 permalink fedilink source parent
[β] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago https://kbin.social/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/681722/-/comment/3961758 permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago Yes, and it's not just creative types. There's a whole lot of people building their businesses on top of other people's businesses, and being super surprised when the rug gets pulled because the line went down. We need a way for people to discover things based on other things they like, without money getting in the way and fucking everything up. permalink fedilink source parent