▲ 125 ▼ SPOILERS - Doctor Who: The Star Beast Discussion (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by ummthatguy@lemmy.world to c/doctorwho@lemmy.world 83 comments fedilink hide all child comments Haven't seen a discussion post for the new special, so I'll get the ball rolling. Thoughts, insights, bits you loved... let it all out.
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (4 children) The Sonic Screwdriver seems to have gotten an upgrade permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I didn't mind it too much. I read a quote somewhere once (I forget where, maybe one of the writers discussing the show?) which said something along the lines of "The sonic is for opening doors and moving the Doctor towards the trouble, not for getting him out of it." which I think is a good way to use it. I mean it did get them away from the shooty bug guys, but it moved them along to the bigger trouble and he didn't use it to solve the whole episode so I think it still works! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I had to laugh when he used it to knock down a brick wall and then later when he seems worried there's not a good escape route, the UNIT lady does basically the same thing with an explosive round. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Maybe that's why the Doctor doesn't go to America very often, all the houses are made of wood lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that was a bit of a stretch. Of course, it's abilities have changed over time based on narrative need or improved editing techniques as we see here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, maybe the BBC used the money from Disney to buy some better SFX servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) That money definitely shines through to whole production: cameras, lighting, cinematography, SFX. I'm just worried how jarring it will be to go back to the show level production. Unless the episodes are suddenly $1 million a piece. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One of my first thoughts watching it was "these opening credits look expensive" lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole episode looked expensive, and not just the Meep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Oh the episodes have been $1 million a piece for a while. One million for an episode of a sci-fi show is a bargain. That's baseline. For reference: An episode of "Superman and Lois", the CW show, allegedly costs roughly 1.5 million dollar. As much as I dislike a lot of the visual decisions made by Chibnall it's clear the BBC spend money on his run. An episode in series 11-13 cost reportedly roughly 3.5 million permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was with it for the display thing. But the energy sheild....ehhh... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nicolairathjen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn’t necessarily hate the energy shield thingies, but they definitely could make things boring if they keep bailing out everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago I liked that they were clearly not impervious, and only useful as a temporary shield. The detail of them beginning to break with every impact was well done. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bluefold@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, gotta sell those toys somehow I guess. I didn't hate it. I think it'll take a bump or two as time goes on to lose functionality when narratively convenient like always it isn't that big of a deal. It took the Doctor forever to do his Penny Crayon routine too. In a real emergency he'd still be best just running like usual. I think it was purely just to set up for the new Disney+ fans he's an advanced alien with a magic wand. And to shift as many units of the screwdriver before Christmas before it gets a downgrade. If the show is proven popular, I wouldn't be surprised for them to deepen the deal and to start seeing merch even appear in the Disney parks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago I think Disney is going to see the huge jump in viewership - especially from American fans who are glad to finally have a reliable time and place to watch it every week - and want more of it. That's ultimately a good thing for us, but hopefully they and Bad Wolf have taken the right lessons from Marvel and Star Wars and don't stretch things too thin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yes. Where did that come from? Did 13 get a proper one at some point? I just started her second season. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I didn't mind it too much. I read a quote somewhere once (I forget where, maybe one of the writers discussing the show?) which said something along the lines of "The sonic is for opening doors and moving the Doctor towards the trouble, not for getting him out of it." which I think is a good way to use it. I mean it did get them away from the shooty bug guys, but it moved them along to the bigger trouble and he didn't use it to solve the whole episode so I think it still works! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I had to laugh when he used it to knock down a brick wall and then later when he seems worried there's not a good escape route, the UNIT lady does basically the same thing with an explosive round. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Maybe that's why the Doctor doesn't go to America very often, all the houses are made of wood lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I had to laugh when he used it to knock down a brick wall and then later when he seems worried there's not a good escape route, the UNIT lady does basically the same thing with an explosive round. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Maybe that's why the Doctor doesn't go to America very often, all the houses are made of wood lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago Maybe that's why the Doctor doesn't go to America very often, all the houses are made of wood lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world [S] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that was a bit of a stretch. Of course, it's abilities have changed over time based on narrative need or improved editing techniques as we see here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, maybe the BBC used the money from Disney to buy some better SFX servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) That money definitely shines through to whole production: cameras, lighting, cinematography, SFX. I'm just worried how jarring it will be to go back to the show level production. Unless the episodes are suddenly $1 million a piece. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One of my first thoughts watching it was "these opening credits look expensive" lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole episode looked expensive, and not just the Meep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Oh the episodes have been $1 million a piece for a while. One million for an episode of a sci-fi show is a bargain. That's baseline. For reference: An episode of "Superman and Lois", the CW show, allegedly costs roughly 1.5 million dollar. As much as I dislike a lot of the visual decisions made by Chibnall it's clear the BBC spend money on his run. An episode in series 11-13 cost reportedly roughly 3.5 million permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was with it for the display thing. But the energy sheild....ehhh... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nicolairathjen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn’t necessarily hate the energy shield thingies, but they definitely could make things boring if they keep bailing out everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago I liked that they were clearly not impervious, and only useful as a temporary shield. The detail of them beginning to break with every impact was well done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or, maybe the BBC used the money from Disney to buy some better SFX servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) That money definitely shines through to whole production: cameras, lighting, cinematography, SFX. I'm just worried how jarring it will be to go back to the show level production. Unless the episodes are suddenly $1 million a piece. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One of my first thoughts watching it was "these opening credits look expensive" lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole episode looked expensive, and not just the Meep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Oh the episodes have been $1 million a piece for a while. One million for an episode of a sci-fi show is a bargain. That's baseline. For reference: An episode of "Superman and Lois", the CW show, allegedly costs roughly 1.5 million dollar. As much as I dislike a lot of the visual decisions made by Chibnall it's clear the BBC spend money on his run. An episode in series 11-13 cost reportedly roughly 3.5 million permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world [S] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) That money definitely shines through to whole production: cameras, lighting, cinematography, SFX. I'm just worried how jarring it will be to go back to the show level production. Unless the episodes are suddenly $1 million a piece. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One of my first thoughts watching it was "these opening credits look expensive" lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole episode looked expensive, and not just the Meep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Oh the episodes have been $1 million a piece for a while. One million for an episode of a sci-fi show is a bargain. That's baseline. For reference: An episode of "Superman and Lois", the CW show, allegedly costs roughly 1.5 million dollar. As much as I dislike a lot of the visual decisions made by Chibnall it's clear the BBC spend money on his run. An episode in series 11-13 cost reportedly roughly 3.5 million permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) One of my first thoughts watching it was "these opening credits look expensive" lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole episode looked expensive, and not just the Meep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) The whole episode looked expensive, and not just the Meep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Oh the episodes have been $1 million a piece for a while. One million for an episode of a sci-fi show is a bargain. That's baseline. For reference: An episode of "Superman and Lois", the CW show, allegedly costs roughly 1.5 million dollar. As much as I dislike a lot of the visual decisions made by Chibnall it's clear the BBC spend money on his run. An episode in series 11-13 cost reportedly roughly 3.5 million permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was with it for the display thing. But the energy sheild....ehhh... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nicolairathjen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn’t necessarily hate the energy shield thingies, but they definitely could make things boring if they keep bailing out everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago I liked that they were clearly not impervious, and only useful as a temporary shield. The detail of them beginning to break with every impact was well done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nicolairathjen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I didn’t necessarily hate the energy shield thingies, but they definitely could make things boring if they keep bailing out everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago I liked that they were clearly not impervious, and only useful as a temporary shield. The detail of them beginning to break with every impact was well done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago I liked that they were clearly not impervious, and only useful as a temporary shield. The detail of them beginning to break with every impact was well done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bluefold@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, gotta sell those toys somehow I guess. I didn't hate it. I think it'll take a bump or two as time goes on to lose functionality when narratively convenient like always it isn't that big of a deal. It took the Doctor forever to do his Penny Crayon routine too. In a real emergency he'd still be best just running like usual. I think it was purely just to set up for the new Disney+ fans he's an advanced alien with a magic wand. And to shift as many units of the screwdriver before Christmas before it gets a downgrade. If the show is proven popular, I wouldn't be surprised for them to deepen the deal and to start seeing merch even appear in the Disney parks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago I think Disney is going to see the huge jump in viewership - especially from American fans who are glad to finally have a reliable time and place to watch it every week - and want more of it. That's ultimately a good thing for us, but hopefully they and Bad Wolf have taken the right lessons from Marvel and Star Wars and don't stretch things too thin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago I think Disney is going to see the huge jump in viewership - especially from American fans who are glad to finally have a reliable time and place to watch it every week - and want more of it. That's ultimately a good thing for us, but hopefully they and Bad Wolf have taken the right lessons from Marvel and Star Wars and don't stretch things too thin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yes. Where did that come from? Did 13 get a proper one at some point? I just started her second season. permalink fedilink source parent