And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is... interesting to say the least.

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[–] 10 points 3 years ago (4 children)

One comment mentions possible incompability with article 22 of the GDPR, and I sure hope the EU will stand their ground on this.

I can only imagine noyb letting all hell break loose. We need more people like him, dissecting corporations legal bs to find every last little thing we can possibly hold against them.

Obligatory use Firefox

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I was just thinking that I'm sure Google will lobby the US government to get this model enforced as law, making it illegal for anyone to create workarounds, or alternative browsers. And the US legislative government being what it is, will hand Google whatever legislation it wants to turn their nightmare into a reality.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The EU is rapidly becoming a neoliberal hellehole resembling the US. I no longer have any hope for existing institutions resisting corporate encroachment. Best that can be done is the support of initiatives like the fediverse and foss in general but if the current trend continues even that is in a precarious position.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago

    The EU is so utterly out of whack right now.

    You got the proposal of chat control on one hand, and stuff like replaceable batteries on the other.

    Like, make up your mind already, do you want to help your citizens or not? It's almost like they do it on purpose to keep our expectations in check.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (7 children)

    Obligatory use Firefox

    No way. Why should I feel obligated to use something I feel has inferior UX and UI than the browser I'm using now? For Mozilla's CEO to rais her wage (again): https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html ?

    You people are really delusional if you really think that Mozilla are the only good guys (or good guys at all, for that matters).

    Inb4, unimaginative people downvoting just because they can't stand different opinions.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    What's your alternative?

    EDIT: Oh I just found in the profile. It's Brave. I used it for half a year before I got tired of the crypto ads sneaking into my home page's links no matter how many times I deleted them and of some other stuff. I prefer Firefox's UI. Also I don't expect any browser to be 100% ethical but Brave is below Firefox in that list for me

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Nice detective skills. I have the opposite view about Brave/Mozilla. But fine, we can agree to disagree and still be (virtual) friends.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    We don’t wanna be friends with crypto-bros here.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It doesn't matter and it's irrelevant here. I just despise Mozilla and their false morality. Use whatever you want.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    It's not irrelevant since you stated Firefox is less good than what you are using now. Of course people are interested in a feasible alternative. So, since you introduced it, what are you using instead?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So you'll rather give in to blatant corporate greed?

    What kind of Alt-Right logic is this?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    I didn't know I was so evil that I'm doing the world a worse place just because I prefer a different browser. And I'm ideologically far form alt-right, btw.

    OTOH, talking about corporate greed:

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    that is a funny graph. Even assuming the data is true, it deliberately missrepresents market share as usage. Which pretty much neglects the fact hat maybe a person or two and a device with a browser or two have entered the market since then.

    Also it does not have any information on source of the data, methodology, definition of the terms etc. So it is pretty much worthless as an argument.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I feel obligated to raise awareness about these topics. I won't prevent anyone from choosing Chrome, but at the very least it's important for people to know what their choice can entail, and base their decision on that.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago

    I won't prevent anyone from using FF, either. I just think that the "obligatory use Firefox" is quite arrogant, to say the least. And, to be honest, I'm quite happy it's not going to happen until FF is managed by Mozilla and their poor choices.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    They're not saying you should feel obligated to use Firefox. It's a tongue-in-cheek joke about how everything FLOSS, Privacy or GDPR related always includes a comment thread about using Firefox. I use Brave too but you gotta read the room. Lemmy users in general are going to be much more pro-Firefox than anything else.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    There is a huge difference between mozilla and google. That's quite obvious to most. The ceo raising his salary is a problem for you, and you prefer Google, where they have enormous salaries and incomes? It's one of the richest companies in the world.

    Firefox doesn't have inferior UX at all. It has more functions and features than chrome. It also has very good default privacy and the plugin system is amazing.

    And it just became faster than chrome as well.

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    The ceo raising his salary is a problem for you

    It's not for me (anymore). It should be for you. She was raising her salary while firing devs... But whatever. Mozillians are seldom rational.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Moreover, Firefox’s UI is incomparably superior to that of Chrome.

    No. It's crap. Utter crap.

    without considering the infinite userchrome.css customisations.

    "Unsupported" and surely an incentive for less tech-savvy people to look elewhere. But whatever. I' won't bother to reply to anything else, as you're statistically one of these persons that spend their life watching crappy youtube videos and buying shit on Amazon.

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    You criticize but don't even have the balls to name your browser? To back up your claims?

    That is pathetic.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    Someone just insulted me and called me "alt-right" person or "crypto bro" (I'm neither of both). So, do you really think that I'm the pathetic one?

    And... Which "claims", by the way? I just said that I'm annoyed by people telling me "I should" do something and that I'll decide by myself. Full stop. Coherently, I'm not giving you alternatives nor have I to disclose anything.

    Sometimes it looks like one has to apologize for using Brave or Vivaldi or any other shit that didn't come out from Mozilla's ass. Keep using FF if this makes you happy. It made me happy for 20 years, but then I got fed up by 1) Mozilla, 2) Mozilla's community 3) The browser itself.

    Don't worry. One day Mozillians will receive a reality bath and realise the farce they have supported.

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