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One thing the fandoms can agree on. (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/risa@startrek.website
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To help contribute, here's the only meme I've ever done, which I did in response to news that Abrams was working on a new ST movie. And after seeing how well the franchise is going with SNW and LD, I feel it's even more appropriate.

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[–] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love me some JJ Abrams hate. The man deserves it all and sooo much more.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    What's annoying is that he's good at pacing and creating intrigue. He just never knows how stick the landing without turning the plot into swiss cheese.

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  • [+] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Jorge is a fantastically creative guy. He needs limitations on that creativity, but he is undeniably a foundation of ideas.

    JJ Abrams mostly regurgitates without having any truly unique ideas. Anything unique he does have is either a subversion or an unfinished mystery concept that’s film student tier. Especially in Star Wars and Trek, he took a bunch of the most surface level aspects from the franchises and threw them in without really doing anything with them.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    His black box storytelling is garbage and the coincidence-based plot in that SW movie was unforgivable.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What's even funnier is when he tells how he came up with his "mystery box" method. He tries to play it off as some kind of profound insightful story from his childhood about magic shops. But then he explains it as the magic shops would package the junk that didn't sell into an unmarked "mystery box" to create intrigue which duped people into buying it. He outright admits he's selling junk

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I'll add that this didn't start with the SW prequel movies either. The various essays on the topic typically focus on The Phantom Menace to make this case (see: Red Letter Media); we do love to hate on that movie. But if you look to early drafts of the very first Star Wars movie script, it's clear that it took a village to make it more than B-movie material. Also, the making-of stories are complete with every kind of move-making person improving and adding to our producer's vision, right down to salvaging the whole mess in the editing room. It's been a problem the entire time.

    Now I wonder if THX-1138 and American Graffiti have similar war-stories behind them.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Creating intrigue is relatively straightforward if you don’t worry about sticking the landing.

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