▲ 378 ▼ Hamas official says group aims to repeat Oct. 7 onslaught many times to destroy Israel (www.timesofisrael.com) submitted 2 years ago by steventhedev@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 277 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 81 points 2 years ago (4 children) They're not doing their supporters any favours with these sort of comments lol permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 82 points 2 years ago (3 children) It’s easy to support Palestinian statehood. Anyone that supports Hamas is a moron. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago (5 children) I was about to say, who's out there supporting hamas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) The tankies are all over it, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bro like literally 90% of Lemmy has a throbbing boner for Hamas and his stated antisemitic terrorists, even in this thread, terrorists apologizers abound permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You've not been in these threads for very long, have you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago Tankies? The same people supporting Russia, China, and other brutalist regimes... permalink fedilink source parent [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago You’d be surprised, they’re out there permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Considering Hamas is the organization governing Gaza right now, the two are often intertwined in these discussions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (4 children) Governing is a generous term permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Under any solution (one or two state), Hamas will be the ones in power and representing the Palestinian block. Doesn't matter if they do a good job of it or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you figure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates. If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) It seems to me that Hamas "governs" Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza "govern" the people they extort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children) Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (5 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) There is also the West Bank, however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The West Bank has now been all but annexed by Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] guacupado@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (8 children) They shouldn't have any fucking supporters. This is the shit all the anti-Israel people are supporting. I'm no fan of Netanyahu but wtf do they expect Israel to do? It's like everyone forgot what prompted this and thinks Israel just woke up one morning and decided to raze everything because they were bored. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm no fan of Netanyahu but wtf do they expect Israel to do? I expect them not to commit war crimes at a bare minimum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes, not indiscriminately murdering civilians would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Elliott@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (11 children) Are you suggesting that when Israel bombs a refugee camp and kills all those innocent people that somehow that is a reasonable response? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) It's a disproportionate response, and misdirected. But it is definitely a response to something real, which the more rabid anti-Israel types seem to gloss over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] First@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a war crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (10 replies) [–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) being both anti-israel and anti-hamas at the same time is the only correct position i don't understand why this isn't obvious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (5 replies) [–] Five@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 years ago (11 children) Which supporters? This is a boon to Vladimir Putin, as world attention and aid to Israel comes at a cost to support for Ukraine. By escalating the conflict to a genocidal ground war, Israel's criminal leaders may have doomed not only Israelis, but the people of Ukraine as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments load more comments (11 replies) [–] TooManyGames@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Not to condone their actions, but what would Hamas care about getting supporters? Palestine situation hasn't been helped much at all by international supporters, so it's not like they care about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago The two are linked together. When aid has been sent to Palestine, to help Palestinians, Hamas has taken it for themselves. There was an EU project I believe to build water infrastructure, and Hamas took it apart to make into rockets. I don't think it's possible to provide material support to the Palestinians. Hamas just takes it all. It's so fucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 9 points 2 years ago Palestine is dependent on foreign aid to continue its war fighting. Specifically aid from western nations. They need supporters to feed, fuel and supply it's military and populace. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Might make people less happy to support pummeling them if they weren't acting like such villains permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 82 points 2 years ago (3 children) It’s easy to support Palestinian statehood. Anyone that supports Hamas is a moron. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago (5 children) I was about to say, who's out there supporting hamas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) The tankies are all over it, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bro like literally 90% of Lemmy has a throbbing boner for Hamas and his stated antisemitic terrorists, even in this thread, terrorists apologizers abound permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You've not been in these threads for very long, have you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago Tankies? The same people supporting Russia, China, and other brutalist regimes... permalink fedilink source parent [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago You’d be surprised, they’re out there permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Considering Hamas is the organization governing Gaza right now, the two are often intertwined in these discussions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (4 children) Governing is a generous term permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Under any solution (one or two state), Hamas will be the ones in power and representing the Palestinian block. Doesn't matter if they do a good job of it or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you figure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates. If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) It seems to me that Hamas "governs" Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza "govern" the people they extort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children) Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (5 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) There is also the West Bank, however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The West Bank has now been all but annexed by Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago (5 children) I was about to say, who's out there supporting hamas permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) The tankies are all over it, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bro like literally 90% of Lemmy has a throbbing boner for Hamas and his stated antisemitic terrorists, even in this thread, terrorists apologizers abound permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You've not been in these threads for very long, have you? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago Tankies? The same people supporting Russia, China, and other brutalist regimes... permalink fedilink source parent [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago You’d be surprised, they’re out there permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (2 children) The tankies are all over it, actually. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago It’s crazy because I’m pretty sure a lot of them would be considered “undesirables” in the societies they claim to want to live in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Bro like literally 90% of Lemmy has a throbbing boner for Hamas and his stated antisemitic terrorists, even in this thread, terrorists apologizers abound permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago You've not been in these threads for very long, have you? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago Tankies? The same people supporting Russia, China, and other brutalist regimes... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago You’d be surprised, they’re out there permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (3 children) Considering Hamas is the organization governing Gaza right now, the two are often intertwined in these discussions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (4 children) Governing is a generous term permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Under any solution (one or two state), Hamas will be the ones in power and representing the Palestinian block. Doesn't matter if they do a good job of it or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you figure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates. If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies) [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) It seems to me that Hamas "governs" Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza "govern" the people they extort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children) Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (5 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies) [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) There is also the West Bank, however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The West Bank has now been all but annexed by Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (4 children) Governing is a generous term permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Under any solution (one or two state), Hamas will be the ones in power and representing the Palestinian block. Doesn't matter if they do a good job of it or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you figure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates. If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies) load more comments (3 replies)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Under any solution (one or two state), Hamas will be the ones in power and representing the Palestinian block. Doesn't matter if they do a good job of it or not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you figure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates. If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) How do you figure? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates. If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) They are the de facto (and kind of de jure...) government of Gaza. Hell, they run the Health Ministry that provides a lot of the updates. If this somehow ends with anything short of further subjugation and/or eradication, they will be "heroes". And they aren't going to lessen their hold on the Palestinian people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments load more comments (2 replies)
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) It seems to me that Hamas "governs" Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza "govern" the people they extort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children) Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (5 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies)
[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (6 children) Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (5 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies) [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (4 replies)
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (5 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments load more comments (5 replies)
[+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) There is also the West Bank, however. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The West Bank has now been all but annexed by Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) The West Bank has now been all but annexed by Israel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (8 children) They shouldn't have any fucking supporters. This is the shit all the anti-Israel people are supporting. I'm no fan of Netanyahu but wtf do they expect Israel to do? It's like everyone forgot what prompted this and thinks Israel just woke up one morning and decided to raze everything because they were bored. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Serdan@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm no fan of Netanyahu but wtf do they expect Israel to do? I expect them not to commit war crimes at a bare minimum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes, not indiscriminately murdering civilians would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Elliott@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (11 children) Are you suggesting that when Israel bombs a refugee camp and kills all those innocent people that somehow that is a reasonable response? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) It's a disproportionate response, and misdirected. But it is definitely a response to something real, which the more rabid anti-Israel types seem to gloss over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] First@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a war crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (10 replies) [–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) being both anti-israel and anti-hamas at the same time is the only correct position i don't understand why this isn't obvious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm no fan of Netanyahu but wtf do they expect Israel to do? I expect them not to commit war crimes at a bare minimum. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes, not indiscriminately murdering civilians would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes, not indiscriminately murdering civilians would be nice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Elliott@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (11 children) Are you suggesting that when Israel bombs a refugee camp and kills all those innocent people that somehow that is a reasonable response? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) It's a disproportionate response, and misdirected. But it is definitely a response to something real, which the more rabid anti-Israel types seem to gloss over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] First@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a war crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (10 replies)
[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (5 children) It's a disproportionate response, and misdirected. But it is definitely a response to something real, which the more rabid anti-Israel types seem to gloss over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] First@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a war crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (4 replies)
[–] First@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's a war crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (4 children) being both anti-israel and anti-hamas at the same time is the only correct position i don't understand why this isn't obvious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Five@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 years ago (11 children) Which supporters? This is a boon to Vladimir Putin, as world attention and aid to Israel comes at a cost to support for Ukraine. By escalating the conflict to a genocidal ground war, Israel's criminal leaders may have doomed not only Israelis, but the people of Ukraine as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments load more comments (11 replies)
[–] TooManyGames@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago (5 children) Not to condone their actions, but what would Hamas care about getting supporters? Palestine situation hasn't been helped much at all by international supporters, so it's not like they care about that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago The two are linked together. When aid has been sent to Palestine, to help Palestinians, Hamas has taken it for themselves. There was an EU project I believe to build water infrastructure, and Hamas took it apart to make into rockets. I don't think it's possible to provide material support to the Palestinians. Hamas just takes it all. It's so fucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mwguy@infosec.pub 9 points 2 years ago Palestine is dependent on foreign aid to continue its war fighting. Specifically aid from western nations. They need supporters to feed, fuel and supply it's military and populace. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Might make people less happy to support pummeling them if they weren't acting like such villains permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago The two are linked together. When aid has been sent to Palestine, to help Palestinians, Hamas has taken it for themselves. There was an EU project I believe to build water infrastructure, and Hamas took it apart to make into rockets. I don't think it's possible to provide material support to the Palestinians. Hamas just takes it all. It's so fucked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 9 points 2 years ago Palestine is dependent on foreign aid to continue its war fighting. Specifically aid from western nations. They need supporters to feed, fuel and supply it's military and populace. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago Might make people less happy to support pummeling them if they weren't acting like such villains permalink fedilink source parent