▲ 378 ▼ Hamas official says group aims to repeat Oct. 7 onslaught many times to destroy Israel (www.timesofisrael.com) submitted 2 years ago by steventhedev@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 277 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children) Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My point was that regardless of their ability to do it, they were at one time the elected officials of the geographic location known as Gaza. They're obviously not a real government in policy and action, but they're the only thing that exists to even bear the term or concept of governance in the area. There is no other group to be considered as the government, no matter how awful Hamas is at being a government of any variety. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago At one time, yes, but I don't think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans. Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there's better ways to point this out. permalink fedilink source parent [+] guacupado@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How long before you expect a population to be responsible for their country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 6 points 2 years ago I don't blame North Koreans for being in a dictatorship, why would I blame Palestinians? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago* When their "leaders" don't represent them? Never. Same reason I don't hate on Israelis. permalink fedilink source parent [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, democracy exists until we don't like it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Venezuela for starters permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Venezuela is literally in the middle of an election year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My point was that regardless of their ability to do it, they were at one time the elected officials of the geographic location known as Gaza. They're obviously not a real government in policy and action, but they're the only thing that exists to even bear the term or concept of governance in the area. There is no other group to be considered as the government, no matter how awful Hamas is at being a government of any variety. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago At one time, yes, but I don't think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans. Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there's better ways to point this out. permalink fedilink source parent [+] guacupado@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How long before you expect a population to be responsible for their country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 6 points 2 years ago I don't blame North Koreans for being in a dictatorship, why would I blame Palestinians? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago* When their "leaders" don't represent them? Never. Same reason I don't hate on Israelis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) My point was that regardless of their ability to do it, they were at one time the elected officials of the geographic location known as Gaza. They're obviously not a real government in policy and action, but they're the only thing that exists to even bear the term or concept of governance in the area. There is no other group to be considered as the government, no matter how awful Hamas is at being a government of any variety. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago At one time, yes, but I don't think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans. Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there's better ways to point this out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago At one time, yes, but I don't think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans. Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there's better ways to point this out. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] guacupado@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) How long before you expect a population to be responsible for their country? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 6 points 2 years ago I don't blame North Koreans for being in a dictatorship, why would I blame Palestinians? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago* When their "leaders" don't represent them? Never. Same reason I don't hate on Israelis. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 6 points 2 years ago I don't blame North Koreans for being in a dictatorship, why would I blame Palestinians? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago* When their "leaders" don't represent them? Never. Same reason I don't hate on Israelis. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, democracy exists until we don't like it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Venezuela for starters permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Venezuela is literally in the middle of an election year. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Venezuela for starters permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Venezuela is literally in the middle of an election year. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Venezuela for starters permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Venezuela is literally in the middle of an election year. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Venezuela is literally in the middle of an election year. permalink fedilink source parent