▲ 1073 ▼ They use to tell us we couldnt trust Wikipedia. Now we know. Wikipedia is the only website you can trust. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by Daft_ish@lemmy.world to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world 330 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 86 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children) Wikipedia is the only piece of the internet I would save from apocalipse. Like, seriously. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yeah, I have Wikipedia saved to a portable hard drive... Just in case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) I don't know if you're making fun of me, but, seriously, for me Wikipedia is an enormously valuable resource, much more than, for instance, YouTube (which I use, maybe, twice per year). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) There is a lot of People with a copy of Wikipedia, it only takes 8GB. Just for the case something happens. I dont think he is making fun of you. Edit: this 8 GB was 10 years ago. From another article from 2022 it says 150Gb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Some folks enjoy reading articles. Some folks enjoy to watch, listen and read (captions) at the same time. Some folks rather ask around and learn through conversations. I've understood that it's generally easier to learn new things when you use many different channels (audio, imagery etc). To many people but not to all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Wasn't making fun of you, just agreeing with you and telling you my fix permalink fedilink source parent [–] rob64@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago I remember in the mid-aughts my brother hacked his iPod — the wheel kind, this was pre-iPhone — to hold the entirety of the text of English Wikipedia at the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DevilOfDoom@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How much data does it use? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. There’s also a mini version that weighs 58,29GB but I don’t know what it contains Wikipedia 1m Top Articles weighs 43,53GB kiwix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Any idea how the 8gb from another comment might be achieved? Edit: I guess zipping it should work pretty well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TBH I have no idea I just took a look at what my app is saying, but I didn’t dig into it permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's probably only the text. Images and videos weigh a lot more than text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. 60GB is still more than 8GB permalink fedilink source parent [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The other comment checked a 10 year reddit link but didnt notice the date untill it went to search for it again because of this thread. Dumbass! Source: it was I, the guy that did the comment. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It's less than 90 gig to do a full backup. I can have the sum total of human knowledge on a 1TB external SDD, and still have room for Skyrim and my modlist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even less so if you exclude images permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Those images are important, I would keep them. Wikipedia just scrapes the surface of information, a picture can give a bigger insight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, if you have the space by all means permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frost752@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is there an easy way of doing a full backup? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alphafalcon@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funnily enough, wikipedia has the answer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frost752@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ah I see, ty lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago That's interesting permalink fedilink source parent [–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's only the text without any media. If you wanted to save all media on Wikimedia Commons, that would be about 420tb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You get the images, just not audio or video files. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stillwater@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago IIRC this happens in the show or book of Station Eleven where a kid saves Wikipedia offline on his PS Vita (somehow) and it's the only version of it out there post-apocalypse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nucleative@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if you need to remember how to procreate? I hear there are a number of informative videos about how to out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago But there aren't on YouTube :-P permalink fedilink source parent [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It would also be nice to have a p2p service still up in the internet apocalypse to share all the things we have left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Could work like the underground networks in Cuba (I say underground but apparently there's wires everywhere?) permalink fedilink source parent [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bought an app by Wikimedia CH that allows to download the whole thing. It’s called Kiwix. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) you "bought" kiwix? AFAIK it's free permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There is a paid version on the Mac AppStore to support the project permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yeah, I have Wikipedia saved to a portable hard drive... Just in case permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) I don't know if you're making fun of me, but, seriously, for me Wikipedia is an enormously valuable resource, much more than, for instance, YouTube (which I use, maybe, twice per year). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) There is a lot of People with a copy of Wikipedia, it only takes 8GB. Just for the case something happens. I dont think he is making fun of you. Edit: this 8 GB was 10 years ago. From another article from 2022 it says 150Gb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Some folks enjoy reading articles. Some folks enjoy to watch, listen and read (captions) at the same time. Some folks rather ask around and learn through conversations. I've understood that it's generally easier to learn new things when you use many different channels (audio, imagery etc). To many people but not to all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Wasn't making fun of you, just agreeing with you and telling you my fix permalink fedilink source parent [–] rob64@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago I remember in the mid-aughts my brother hacked his iPod — the wheel kind, this was pre-iPhone — to hold the entirety of the text of English Wikipedia at the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DevilOfDoom@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How much data does it use? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. There’s also a mini version that weighs 58,29GB but I don’t know what it contains Wikipedia 1m Top Articles weighs 43,53GB kiwix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Any idea how the 8gb from another comment might be achieved? Edit: I guess zipping it should work pretty well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TBH I have no idea I just took a look at what my app is saying, but I didn’t dig into it permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's probably only the text. Images and videos weigh a lot more than text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. 60GB is still more than 8GB permalink fedilink source parent [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The other comment checked a 10 year reddit link but didnt notice the date untill it went to search for it again because of this thread. Dumbass! Source: it was I, the guy that did the comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) I don't know if you're making fun of me, but, seriously, for me Wikipedia is an enormously valuable resource, much more than, for instance, YouTube (which I use, maybe, twice per year). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) There is a lot of People with a copy of Wikipedia, it only takes 8GB. Just for the case something happens. I dont think he is making fun of you. Edit: this 8 GB was 10 years ago. From another article from 2022 it says 150Gb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Some folks enjoy reading articles. Some folks enjoy to watch, listen and read (captions) at the same time. Some folks rather ask around and learn through conversations. I've understood that it's generally easier to learn new things when you use many different channels (audio, imagery etc). To many people but not to all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Wasn't making fun of you, just agreeing with you and telling you my fix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) There is a lot of People with a copy of Wikipedia, it only takes 8GB. Just for the case something happens. I dont think he is making fun of you. Edit: this 8 GB was 10 years ago. From another article from 2022 it says 150Gb. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Some folks enjoy reading articles. Some folks enjoy to watch, listen and read (captions) at the same time. Some folks rather ask around and learn through conversations. I've understood that it's generally easier to learn new things when you use many different channels (audio, imagery etc). To many people but not to all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Wasn't making fun of you, just agreeing with you and telling you my fix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rob64@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago I remember in the mid-aughts my brother hacked his iPod — the wheel kind, this was pre-iPhone — to hold the entirety of the text of English Wikipedia at the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DevilOfDoom@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) How much data does it use? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. There’s also a mini version that weighs 58,29GB but I don’t know what it contains Wikipedia 1m Top Articles weighs 43,53GB kiwix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Any idea how the 8gb from another comment might be achieved? Edit: I guess zipping it should work pretty well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TBH I have no idea I just took a look at what my app is saying, but I didn’t dig into it permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's probably only the text. Images and videos weigh a lot more than text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. 60GB is still more than 8GB permalink fedilink source parent [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The other comment checked a 10 year reddit link but didnt notice the date untill it went to search for it again because of this thread. Dumbass! Source: it was I, the guy that did the comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. There’s also a mini version that weighs 58,29GB but I don’t know what it contains Wikipedia 1m Top Articles weighs 43,53GB kiwix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Any idea how the 8gb from another comment might be achieved? Edit: I guess zipping it should work pretty well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TBH I have no idea I just took a look at what my app is saying, but I didn’t dig into it permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's probably only the text. Images and videos weigh a lot more than text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. 60GB is still more than 8GB permalink fedilink source parent [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The other comment checked a 10 year reddit link but didnt notice the date untill it went to search for it again because of this thread. Dumbass! Source: it was I, the guy that did the comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Any idea how the 8gb from another comment might be achieved? Edit: I guess zipping it should work pretty well permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TBH I have no idea I just took a look at what my app is saying, but I didn’t dig into it permalink fedilink source parent [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's probably only the text. Images and videos weigh a lot more than text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. 60GB is still more than 8GB permalink fedilink source parent [–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The other comment checked a 10 year reddit link but didnt notice the date untill it went to search for it again because of this thread. Dumbass! Source: it was I, the guy that did the comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago TBH I have no idea I just took a look at what my app is saying, but I didn’t dig into it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's probably only the text. Images and videos weigh a lot more than text. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. 60GB is still more than 8GB permalink fedilink source parent
[–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago According to my app, the whole English Wikipedia with pictures weighs 102.62GB, down to 60,06GB without. 60GB is still more than 8GB permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LuckyBoy@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago The other comment checked a 10 year reddit link but didnt notice the date untill it went to search for it again because of this thread. Dumbass! Source: it was I, the guy that did the comment. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (4 children) It's less than 90 gig to do a full backup. I can have the sum total of human knowledge on a 1TB external SDD, and still have room for Skyrim and my modlist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even less so if you exclude images permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Those images are important, I would keep them. Wikipedia just scrapes the surface of information, a picture can give a bigger insight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, if you have the space by all means permalink fedilink source parent [–] Frost752@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is there an easy way of doing a full backup? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alphafalcon@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funnily enough, wikipedia has the answer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frost752@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ah I see, ty lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago That's interesting permalink fedilink source parent [–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's only the text without any media. If you wanted to save all media on Wikimedia Commons, that would be about 420tb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You get the images, just not audio or video files. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Even less so if you exclude images permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Those images are important, I would keep them. Wikipedia just scrapes the surface of information, a picture can give a bigger insight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, if you have the space by all means permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Those images are important, I would keep them. Wikipedia just scrapes the surface of information, a picture can give a bigger insight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, if you have the space by all means permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago True, if you have the space by all means permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Frost752@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is there an easy way of doing a full backup? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] alphafalcon@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funnily enough, wikipedia has the answer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frost752@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ah I see, ty lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] alphafalcon@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Funnily enough, wikipedia has the answer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Frost752@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago ah I see, ty lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 point 2 years ago That's interesting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's only the text without any media. If you wanted to save all media on Wikimedia Commons, that would be about 420tb. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You get the images, just not audio or video files. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago You get the images, just not audio or video files. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stillwater@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago IIRC this happens in the show or book of Station Eleven where a kid saves Wikipedia offline on his PS Vita (somehow) and it's the only version of it out there post-apocalypse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if you need to remember how to procreate? I hear there are a number of informative videos about how to out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago But there aren't on YouTube :-P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago But there aren't on YouTube :-P permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) It would also be nice to have a p2p service still up in the internet apocalypse to share all the things we have left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Could work like the underground networks in Cuba (I say underground but apparently there's wires everywhere?) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago Could work like the underground networks in Cuba (I say underground but apparently there's wires everywhere?) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bought an app by Wikimedia CH that allows to download the whole thing. It’s called Kiwix. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) you "bought" kiwix? AFAIK it's free permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There is a paid version on the Mac AppStore to support the project permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) you "bought" kiwix? AFAIK it's free permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joneskind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There is a paid version on the Mac AppStore to support the project permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There is a paid version on the Mac AppStore to support the project permalink fedilink source parent