▲ 1242 ▼ Billy believes in adblocking (startrek.website) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website [M] to c/memes@lemmy.world 98 comments fedilink hide all child comments I've been informed that adblock plus sort of sucks now. If you're looking for one, go for UBlock Origin.
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website [S] 90 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm not an expert on these and didn't realize there was a difference. Did this one sell out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 177 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yes, they allow certain "non-obtrusive" ads by default. Some people might be fine with this, but it should absolutely be opt-in, and their deal with an ad company is the only reason it's the default. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (9 children) I miss non obtrusive adds, remember when add blockers weren't a thing and we were all fine with the adds in the sidebar trying to sell us virus laden glittery custom mouse cursors? Instead we have an arms race where the net is essentially unuseable without an add blocker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Sestren@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Ads were never really non-obtrusive. If advertisers could force you to listen to their slogan at max volume every time you opened your browser, they would do so without hesitation. If you ever saw an easily avoidable ad in the late 90s-early 00s, it wasn't for lack of trying. They simply hadn't personally figured out more annoying methods yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago I’m guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Now we're graced with its spiritual successor - the full-screen browser tab that looks like an "antivirus" warning designed to freak people out and get them to call the 800 number to grant remote access to "fix" the virus. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or those flash-based "shoot the mosquito" ads that played a buzzing noise, at a time where your browser didn't highlight tabs playing media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago Agreed. Flash. 🤦♂️. Keep that one in the annals of history please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grte@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago What magical era is this? Because the before-adblocker time I remember was a hellscape of pop-over popups, sometimes many of them from opening a single web page. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago .... ah, those were the days, of flash player ads that would grind your system to a halt with anti-aliased particle spam, minigames, and perhaps a virus too. Or the sneaky, stealthy, cpu grinding carpet bomb of the pop-under ads, only visible after you close the browsing window. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago It's become even worse since mobile became dominant. Now the ads are no longer a bit of text or a gif, but full page shit covering the top half of what you want to see and stubbornly staying in place even as you scroll. The bottom half of the screen is a sea of cookie and data consent forms who's only interest is in making you agree out of sheer frustration. And this is fuelled by bullshit, clickbait driven sites that use 10 paragraphs of useless AI generated padding with ads in between, to resist telling you what you went there to find out. Google has destroyed the usability of the internet, and if it wasn't them it would have been some other greedy fuckers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Some of the first ads on the Internet were pop-ups. Ads always sucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago The worst part is, I still want those crazy cursors permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago No, I remember hating those banner ads. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Carbon Ads does non-intrusive ads very well permalink fedilink source parent [+] HerrBeter@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website [S] 34 points 2 years ago Well that blows. Thanks for the heads up. This is why we can't have nice things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bradons@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless I heard wrong, I was under the impression that to be considered "non-intrusive" all the ad company had to do was pay adblock Plus. Ublock Origin is king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they need to obey to a specific standard. I think money may be involved but you need also to make sure that ads are non intrusive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago it's both: https://adblockplus.org/en/about#monetization permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago Not only did Adblock Plus sell out, the maker of the real program everybody should be using, uBlock Origin, doesn't even accept donations. permalink fedilink source parent [–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago A tale of 3 adblockers ABP allows "acceptable" ads that are acceptable insofar as they meet certain standards one of which is paying them money effectively renting your eyeballs to advertisers. Ublock Origin: A powerful and performant ad blocker by its creator Ublock. After the above dev tried to pass the torch to the loser who now controls this he instantly edited information removing all information about the person who actually created it and fund raise off it to the point where the original dev renamed his fork of his own work Ublock origin after it was taken down on behalf of the scumbag who now runs ublock. In short there is no reason to use anything but Ublock origin permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 177 points 2 years ago (3 children) Yes, they allow certain "non-obtrusive" ads by default. Some people might be fine with this, but it should absolutely be opt-in, and their deal with an ad company is the only reason it's the default. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (9 children) I miss non obtrusive adds, remember when add blockers weren't a thing and we were all fine with the adds in the sidebar trying to sell us virus laden glittery custom mouse cursors? Instead we have an arms race where the net is essentially unuseable without an add blocker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Sestren@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Ads were never really non-obtrusive. If advertisers could force you to listen to their slogan at max volume every time you opened your browser, they would do so without hesitation. If you ever saw an easily avoidable ad in the late 90s-early 00s, it wasn't for lack of trying. They simply hadn't personally figured out more annoying methods yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago I’m guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Now we're graced with its spiritual successor - the full-screen browser tab that looks like an "antivirus" warning designed to freak people out and get them to call the 800 number to grant remote access to "fix" the virus. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or those flash-based "shoot the mosquito" ads that played a buzzing noise, at a time where your browser didn't highlight tabs playing media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago Agreed. Flash. 🤦♂️. Keep that one in the annals of history please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grte@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago What magical era is this? Because the before-adblocker time I remember was a hellscape of pop-over popups, sometimes many of them from opening a single web page. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago .... ah, those were the days, of flash player ads that would grind your system to a halt with anti-aliased particle spam, minigames, and perhaps a virus too. Or the sneaky, stealthy, cpu grinding carpet bomb of the pop-under ads, only visible after you close the browsing window. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago It's become even worse since mobile became dominant. Now the ads are no longer a bit of text or a gif, but full page shit covering the top half of what you want to see and stubbornly staying in place even as you scroll. The bottom half of the screen is a sea of cookie and data consent forms who's only interest is in making you agree out of sheer frustration. And this is fuelled by bullshit, clickbait driven sites that use 10 paragraphs of useless AI generated padding with ads in between, to resist telling you what you went there to find out. Google has destroyed the usability of the internet, and if it wasn't them it would have been some other greedy fuckers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Some of the first ads on the Internet were pop-ups. Ads always sucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago The worst part is, I still want those crazy cursors permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago No, I remember hating those banner ads. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Carbon Ads does non-intrusive ads very well permalink fedilink source parent [+] HerrBeter@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website [S] 34 points 2 years ago Well that blows. Thanks for the heads up. This is why we can't have nice things. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bradons@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless I heard wrong, I was under the impression that to be considered "non-intrusive" all the ad company had to do was pay adblock Plus. Ublock Origin is king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they need to obey to a specific standard. I think money may be involved but you need also to make sure that ads are non intrusive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago it's both: https://adblockplus.org/en/about#monetization permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 81 points 2 years ago (9 children) I miss non obtrusive adds, remember when add blockers weren't a thing and we were all fine with the adds in the sidebar trying to sell us virus laden glittery custom mouse cursors? Instead we have an arms race where the net is essentially unuseable without an add blocker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Sestren@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Ads were never really non-obtrusive. If advertisers could force you to listen to their slogan at max volume every time you opened your browser, they would do so without hesitation. If you ever saw an easily avoidable ad in the late 90s-early 00s, it wasn't for lack of trying. They simply hadn't personally figured out more annoying methods yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago I’m guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Now we're graced with its spiritual successor - the full-screen browser tab that looks like an "antivirus" warning designed to freak people out and get them to call the 800 number to grant remote access to "fix" the virus. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or those flash-based "shoot the mosquito" ads that played a buzzing noise, at a time where your browser didn't highlight tabs playing media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago Agreed. Flash. 🤦♂️. Keep that one in the annals of history please. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grte@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago What magical era is this? Because the before-adblocker time I remember was a hellscape of pop-over popups, sometimes many of them from opening a single web page. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago .... ah, those were the days, of flash player ads that would grind your system to a halt with anti-aliased particle spam, minigames, and perhaps a virus too. Or the sneaky, stealthy, cpu grinding carpet bomb of the pop-under ads, only visible after you close the browsing window. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago It's become even worse since mobile became dominant. Now the ads are no longer a bit of text or a gif, but full page shit covering the top half of what you want to see and stubbornly staying in place even as you scroll. The bottom half of the screen is a sea of cookie and data consent forms who's only interest is in making you agree out of sheer frustration. And this is fuelled by bullshit, clickbait driven sites that use 10 paragraphs of useless AI generated padding with ads in between, to resist telling you what you went there to find out. Google has destroyed the usability of the internet, and if it wasn't them it would have been some other greedy fuckers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Some of the first ads on the Internet were pop-ups. Ads always sucked. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago The worst part is, I still want those crazy cursors permalink fedilink source parent [–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago No, I remember hating those banner ads. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Carbon Ads does non-intrusive ads very well permalink fedilink source parent [+] HerrBeter@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sestren@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (2 children) I'm guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Ads were never really non-obtrusive. If advertisers could force you to listen to their slogan at max volume every time you opened your browser, they would do so without hesitation. If you ever saw an easily avoidable ad in the late 90s-early 00s, it wasn't for lack of trying. They simply hadn't personally figured out more annoying methods yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago I’m guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Now we're graced with its spiritual successor - the full-screen browser tab that looks like an "antivirus" warning designed to freak people out and get them to call the 800 number to grant remote access to "fix" the virus. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or those flash-based "shoot the mosquito" ads that played a buzzing noise, at a time where your browser didn't highlight tabs playing media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago Agreed. Flash. 🤦♂️. Keep that one in the annals of history please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago I’m guessing you missed the time period where opening the wrong page would give you an infinite loop of un-closeable pop-up windows with background music. Now we're graced with its spiritual successor - the full-screen browser tab that looks like an "antivirus" warning designed to freak people out and get them to call the 800 number to grant remote access to "fix" the virus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Or those flash-based "shoot the mosquito" ads that played a buzzing noise, at a time where your browser didn't highlight tabs playing media. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago Agreed. Flash. 🤦♂️. Keep that one in the annals of history please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago Agreed. Flash. 🤦♂️. Keep that one in the annals of history please. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grte@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago What magical era is this? Because the before-adblocker time I remember was a hellscape of pop-over popups, sometimes many of them from opening a single web page. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago .... ah, those were the days, of flash player ads that would grind your system to a halt with anti-aliased particle spam, minigames, and perhaps a virus too. Or the sneaky, stealthy, cpu grinding carpet bomb of the pop-under ads, only visible after you close the browsing window. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago It's become even worse since mobile became dominant. Now the ads are no longer a bit of text or a gif, but full page shit covering the top half of what you want to see and stubbornly staying in place even as you scroll. The bottom half of the screen is a sea of cookie and data consent forms who's only interest is in making you agree out of sheer frustration. And this is fuelled by bullshit, clickbait driven sites that use 10 paragraphs of useless AI generated padding with ads in between, to resist telling you what you went there to find out. Google has destroyed the usability of the internet, and if it wasn't them it would have been some other greedy fuckers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Some of the first ads on the Internet were pop-ups. Ads always sucked. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Infynis@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago The worst part is, I still want those crazy cursors permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RoquetteQueen@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago No, I remember hating those banner ads. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago Carbon Ads does non-intrusive ads very well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website [S] 34 points 2 years ago Well that blows. Thanks for the heads up. This is why we can't have nice things. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bradons@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) Unless I heard wrong, I was under the impression that to be considered "non-intrusive" all the ad company had to do was pay adblock Plus. Ublock Origin is king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they need to obey to a specific standard. I think money may be involved but you need also to make sure that ads are non intrusive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago it's both: https://adblockplus.org/en/about#monetization permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vapeloki@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) No, they need to obey to a specific standard. I think money may be involved but you need also to make sure that ads are non intrusive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago it's both: https://adblockplus.org/en/about#monetization permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago it's both: https://adblockplus.org/en/about#monetization permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago Not only did Adblock Plus sell out, the maker of the real program everybody should be using, uBlock Origin, doesn't even accept donations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago A tale of 3 adblockers ABP allows "acceptable" ads that are acceptable insofar as they meet certain standards one of which is paying them money effectively renting your eyeballs to advertisers. Ublock Origin: A powerful and performant ad blocker by its creator Ublock. After the above dev tried to pass the torch to the loser who now controls this he instantly edited information removing all information about the person who actually created it and fund raise off it to the point where the original dev renamed his fork of his own work Ublock origin after it was taken down on behalf of the scumbag who now runs ublock. In short there is no reason to use anything but Ublock origin permalink fedilink source parent