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[+] -15 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Can’t afford to live

At what quality of life?

I find it hard to believe you have a public service job that can't pay for your peanut butter sandwiches and vegetables to stay alive.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lol damn, God forbid someone want more out of life than scraping by getting basic needs barely met. I've been looking around while in school, and plenty of jobs are still paying $15-19/hr. That is barely enough to get by, depending where you live and rent may not even be enough, let alone take a vacation once a year or even think of raising a family.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    What do you mean? He used the word 'need' and now you're changing it to 'wants.'

    Why are you conflating needs with wants?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's both. Humans need breaks, vacations, etc. I may want to take a vacation to South America but would settle for somewhere North, though.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Humans need breaks, vacations, etc.

    Woah woah woah. Breaks and vacations are very different things.

    It's funny watching you people conflate needs and wants just like breaks and vacations, lol.

    You really need to brush up on your vocabulary!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You're arguing semantics while the intention is clear. Quit being pedantic.

    In our parents' generation's time, a public service job could fund a house, two kids, and annual vacations. We want that, or even more since we're significantly more productive since those days. A job used to give us needs and a good amount of wants. Conflating the two in this context, while not perfectly precise, is irrelevant.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Needs and wants are different things and should be described as such.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    If I'm talking about liking red cars then point to a car, and you say, "that's not red, that's mauve," you're being an ass.

    If we're shopping for paint together, and i say "i like this red," and you reply, "i think that's mauve," you're trying to be specific in our communication about a common task.

    Right now, we're talking about cars. Chill out

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    What are you talking about?

    Needs and wants are not like colors, lol. What a terrible analogy that only a moron would take seriously.

    You're putting yourself through mental gymnastics to try and change the meanings of words to suit your agenda.

    I'm gonna block you now. I can tell people like you aren't worth dealing with.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Please do explain the difference, then, between why breaks are necessary but vacations shouldn't be? You do realize study after study shows that 24-30 hour work weeks provide the most productivity? That family leave, healthcare, paid time off etc is associated with the happiest citizens? Is increased well-being not necessary in your worldview?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    between why breaks are necessary but vacations shouldn’t be?

    One is literally necessary for survival while the other isn't. This is the difference between a 'need' and a 'want.'

    Is increased well-being not necessary in your worldview?

    Considering how many people are able to live a significantly lower quality of life than what you're advocating for, no. It's not a 'need.' It's a 'want.' There's no limit to 'increased well being.' There is a limit to what the human body can take before it can no longer go on living.

    Might want to brush up on your vocabulary. This is a pretty simple concept that even 2nd graders have no problem understanding.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, second graders get longer vacations than I do, interesting ain't it. Maybe you need one cuz your brain seems to be working overtime to justify people suffering.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I'm not justifying anyone suffering.

    I'm educating adults on the difference between needs and wants because they have the vocabulary of a pre-schooler.

    Apparently the reading comprehension, too. Lol.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Keep insulting people that are suffering, really must do you a lot of favors when you're talking to someone in person.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    The wording was a tad dramatic.

    I can afford to eat. But I can't afford housing and any enjoyment comes with guilt from knowing itll have a knock on effect to my finances. I'm living with a parent (who similarly struggles to pay bills)

    It's more a case of finding it hard to hit the bills and not being able to see a future where I'm comfortable.

    I'd say it's mostly due to the cost of living rather than the pay. 10 years ago I'd be doing quite well, but the pay grades haven't changed to meet inflation or accommodate for the high cost of living.

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