▲ 677 ▼ vscodium, vscode without spyware (github.com) submitted 3 years ago by jackpot@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml 109 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 64 points 3 years ago (6 children) But that's something new to learn and configure. I just want to code why should I spend my time learning another text editor when vscodium is fine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (3 children) Careful. You're in a linux-heavy audience. They're the kinda people who would spend a few weeks setting up systems to use it for a few minutes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Who uses a system for only few minutes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] No1@aussie.zone 9 points 3 years ago* Well, it's because after using the system for only a few minutes, I realise it's not quite right, and I'll have to spend a few weeks to set it up again! permalink fedilink source parent [–] UdeRecife@literature.cafe 7 points 3 years ago* That's simply outrageous!!! As soon as I finish tinkering with my system, I'll prepare a proper reply... On a more serious note though. Don't overlook the role of procrastination in the endless tinkering many put on their boxes. I'm speaking from experience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Synthead@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago I'm a full-time Vim and Linux user when writing code. I agree with the statement that "simply switching" editors is very naive. I'm my personal opinion, you should decide on an editor that makes sense to you and learn to be very good at it. If VS Code is that answer, then great. Not everything points to Vim or Emacs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nonearther@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) Who doesn't want to go through learning of text editor and pain of configuring instead of actually coding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago Well...obviously them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago That's fine too. Use whatever does the job for you, but give alternatives a try if you ever have the time. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Massada42@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 3 years ago (2 children) Vim and EMACS require tons of plugins and a brain transplant to feel confortable using them. And the new personality tends to be somewhat evangelical about the editors 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) New, since the 80s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago I meant the new implanted personality. Not historically new. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Personally i find emacs plugin packs like Doom Emacs to make it infinitely nicer, no brain transplant needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago The plural of anecdote is not data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But isn't atom and vscodium almost the same stuff? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Massada42@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was under the impression that was a fork of atom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago No, but there is a fork of atom being developed called Pulsar. https://pulsar-edit.dev/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hudell@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago I'm still using sublime to this day. It keeps getting worse and falling behind VSCode with every new feature that never comes gets to it, but I have so many pet peeves with VSCode that everytime I try it I soon give up. I wish there were more options these days, but as the expected feature sets get more complex the number of options keep going down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] exu@feditown.com 4 points 3 years ago Well, if you learned emacs, you could do everything in it and won't have to change ever again! /s kinda permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Same reason why a carpenter should learn to properly use hand tools, or a teacher should keep up on literature. In other words, master your tools. It doesn't matter which tool you use, provided you can use it to its full potential. I occasionally use VSCode, but I mostly use ViM because that's my tool of choice. For another reason, if your ever in the situation where you need to work on something on a remote server or an unfamiliar machine, knowing ViM means you can at least be somewhat productive when you don't have your normal tools available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I know vim. I'm using vscodium with a vim plugin. I was coding in pure vim for half a year because my Laptop with 4 gigs of RAM couldn't handle vscode. I just don't want to configure vim so it does all the stuff VScodium does for me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago That's fine, use what works best. I think there's value in getting at least the basics working, such as syntax highlighting and linting in case you want or need to use it again. The question was why one should learn to use something like ViM or emacs, not why anything else is a poor option. Master your tools, regardless of what they are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 57 points 3 years ago (3 children) Careful. You're in a linux-heavy audience. They're the kinda people who would spend a few weeks setting up systems to use it for a few minutes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Who uses a system for only few minutes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] No1@aussie.zone 9 points 3 years ago* Well, it's because after using the system for only a few minutes, I realise it's not quite right, and I'll have to spend a few weeks to set it up again! permalink fedilink source parent [–] UdeRecife@literature.cafe 7 points 3 years ago* That's simply outrageous!!! As soon as I finish tinkering with my system, I'll prepare a proper reply... On a more serious note though. Don't overlook the role of procrastination in the endless tinkering many put on their boxes. I'm speaking from experience. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Synthead@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago I'm a full-time Vim and Linux user when writing code. I agree with the statement that "simply switching" editors is very naive. I'm my personal opinion, you should decide on an editor that makes sense to you and learn to be very good at it. If VS Code is that answer, then great. Not everything points to Vim or Emacs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) Who uses a system for only few minutes? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] No1@aussie.zone 9 points 3 years ago* Well, it's because after using the system for only a few minutes, I realise it's not quite right, and I'll have to spend a few weeks to set it up again! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] No1@aussie.zone 9 points 3 years ago* Well, it's because after using the system for only a few minutes, I realise it's not quite right, and I'll have to spend a few weeks to set it up again! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UdeRecife@literature.cafe 7 points 3 years ago* That's simply outrageous!!! As soon as I finish tinkering with my system, I'll prepare a proper reply... On a more serious note though. Don't overlook the role of procrastination in the endless tinkering many put on their boxes. I'm speaking from experience. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago I'm a full-time Vim and Linux user when writing code. I agree with the statement that "simply switching" editors is very naive. I'm my personal opinion, you should decide on an editor that makes sense to you and learn to be very good at it. If VS Code is that answer, then great. Not everything points to Vim or Emacs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nonearther@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 years ago (1 child) Who doesn't want to go through learning of text editor and pain of configuring instead of actually coding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago Well...obviously them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 years ago Well...obviously them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago That's fine too. Use whatever does the job for you, but give alternatives a try if you ever have the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Massada42@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 3 years ago (2 children) Vim and EMACS require tons of plugins and a brain transplant to feel confortable using them. And the new personality tends to be somewhat evangelical about the editors 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) New, since the 80s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago I meant the new implanted personality. Not historically new. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Personally i find emacs plugin packs like Doom Emacs to make it infinitely nicer, no brain transplant needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago The plural of anecdote is not data. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But isn't atom and vscodium almost the same stuff? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Massada42@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was under the impression that was a fork of atom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago No, but there is a fork of atom being developed called Pulsar. https://pulsar-edit.dev/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hudell@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago I'm still using sublime to this day. It keeps getting worse and falling behind VSCode with every new feature that never comes gets to it, but I have so many pet peeves with VSCode that everytime I try it I soon give up. I wish there were more options these days, but as the expected feature sets get more complex the number of options keep going down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 3 years ago (2 children) Vim and EMACS require tons of plugins and a brain transplant to feel confortable using them. And the new personality tends to be somewhat evangelical about the editors 😄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) New, since the 80s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago I meant the new implanted personality. Not historically new. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Personally i find emacs plugin packs like Doom Emacs to make it infinitely nicer, no brain transplant needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago The plural of anecdote is not data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) New, since the 80s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago I meant the new implanted personality. Not historically new. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago I meant the new implanted personality. Not historically new. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) Personally i find emacs plugin packs like Doom Emacs to make it infinitely nicer, no brain transplant needed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago The plural of anecdote is not data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 point 3 years ago The plural of anecdote is not data. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) But isn't atom and vscodium almost the same stuff? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Massada42@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was under the impression that was a fork of atom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago No, but there is a fork of atom being developed called Pulsar. https://pulsar-edit.dev/ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Massada42@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was under the impression that was a fork of atom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago No, but there is a fork of atom being developed called Pulsar. https://pulsar-edit.dev/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) I was under the impression that was a fork of atom permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago No, but there is a fork of atom being developed called Pulsar. https://pulsar-edit.dev/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago No, but there is a fork of atom being developed called Pulsar. https://pulsar-edit.dev/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hudell@lemmy.ml 1 point 3 years ago I'm still using sublime to this day. It keeps getting worse and falling behind VSCode with every new feature that never comes gets to it, but I have so many pet peeves with VSCode that everytime I try it I soon give up. I wish there were more options these days, but as the expected feature sets get more complex the number of options keep going down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exu@feditown.com 4 points 3 years ago Well, if you learned emacs, you could do everything in it and won't have to change ever again! /s kinda permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Same reason why a carpenter should learn to properly use hand tools, or a teacher should keep up on literature. In other words, master your tools. It doesn't matter which tool you use, provided you can use it to its full potential. I occasionally use VSCode, but I mostly use ViM because that's my tool of choice. For another reason, if your ever in the situation where you need to work on something on a remote server or an unfamiliar machine, knowing ViM means you can at least be somewhat productive when you don't have your normal tools available. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I know vim. I'm using vscodium with a vim plugin. I was coding in pure vim for half a year because my Laptop with 4 gigs of RAM couldn't handle vscode. I just don't want to configure vim so it does all the stuff VScodium does for me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago That's fine, use what works best. I think there's value in getting at least the basics working, such as syntax highlighting and linting in case you want or need to use it again. The question was why one should learn to use something like ViM or emacs, not why anything else is a poor option. Master your tools, regardless of what they are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I know vim. I'm using vscodium with a vim plugin. I was coding in pure vim for half a year because my Laptop with 4 gigs of RAM couldn't handle vscode. I just don't want to configure vim so it does all the stuff VScodium does for me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago That's fine, use what works best. I think there's value in getting at least the basics working, such as syntax highlighting and linting in case you want or need to use it again. The question was why one should learn to use something like ViM or emacs, not why anything else is a poor option. Master your tools, regardless of what they are. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago That's fine, use what works best. I think there's value in getting at least the basics working, such as syntax highlighting and linting in case you want or need to use it again. The question was why one should learn to use something like ViM or emacs, not why anything else is a poor option. Master your tools, regardless of what they are. permalink fedilink source parent