▲ 1143 ▼ Woman Calls Out Doctor Wearing Smart Glasses During Consultation Where She Had To Take Off Her Clothes: 'They Need To Be Banned' (www.fashiontimes.co.uk) submitted 3 days ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world 350 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -19 points 3 days ago (3 children) Something something first amendment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 36 points 3 days ago (2 children) First amendment only protects you from being persecuted by the government. Being ostracized, shamed and unfortunately attacked in the middle of the night by anonomous people isn't against the first amendment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago* (1 child) It also doesn't apply outside the US (there's a whole planet out there guys) so regardless of the nuance of its construction, it isn't relevant here anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago thanks @MBech@feddit.dk and @echodot@feddit.uk, I was about reply these two points and then saw your replies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) But they are allowed to debate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 3 days ago Depends on the debate. The government can't stop them from debating. If you host a debate though, without any government affiliation, you're not forced to let them attend. In the same way, if you own a forum on the internet, you can silence anyone you want to. The literal ONLY thing the first amendment protects against, is government persecution for speech. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how people react to said speech. Just because someone cries "Muh first amendment!" doesn't mean you actually have to respect them. You can shame them, silence them, ostracise them. Put up billboards telling people how fucking insane they are. Take out an ad in the local newspaper to display their bullshit in an attempt to shame them into submission, tell them to go fuck themselves. If they're in your house, you can toss them out. YOU can do whatever you want. YOU can't breach the first amendment, only the government can. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 child) Bullshit, voyeurism is a felony in most states. Invading someone's privacy isn't covered by the first fucking amendment you dolt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 days ago (1 child) I answered why it's still debatable. Debating is free speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 child) anything is debatable, it doesn't make it legal or ethical. creeping on people with hidden cameras is fucking gross and needs even more regulation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago Correct. Doctor should have his head put through the wall. Use a stud finder so you don't miss. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) What!? lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) It's why you can't stop the debate. It's not illegal to be wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 child) You don’t have a first amendment right to debate stuff here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 days ago (3 children) I do find it funny how much people hate our society's fundamental rights and want to limit them as much as possible. AIN'T NO FUCKIN FREE SPEECH HERE. WE HATE THAT SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* It’s not that. We just understand what those rights are. And what they’re not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago Fundamental rights? You don't actually have a fundamental right to free speech, nobody has to respect that, only the US government as it pertains to their constitution. None of this applies to the first amendment because IT'S NOT THE US GOVT TRYING TO RESTRICT IT. You're in a world-wide forum. Do you think anyone in another country gives a shit what your government thinks about your US rights? Say what you want, but literally nobody has to care what you think permalink fedilink source parent [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/1357/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MBech@feddit.dk 36 points 3 days ago (2 children) First amendment only protects you from being persecuted by the government. Being ostracized, shamed and unfortunately attacked in the middle of the night by anonomous people isn't against the first amendment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago* (1 child) It also doesn't apply outside the US (there's a whole planet out there guys) so regardless of the nuance of its construction, it isn't relevant here anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago thanks @MBech@feddit.dk and @echodot@feddit.uk, I was about reply these two points and then saw your replies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) But they are allowed to debate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 3 days ago Depends on the debate. The government can't stop them from debating. If you host a debate though, without any government affiliation, you're not forced to let them attend. In the same way, if you own a forum on the internet, you can silence anyone you want to. The literal ONLY thing the first amendment protects against, is government persecution for speech. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how people react to said speech. Just because someone cries "Muh first amendment!" doesn't mean you actually have to respect them. You can shame them, silence them, ostracise them. Put up billboards telling people how fucking insane they are. Take out an ad in the local newspaper to display their bullshit in an attempt to shame them into submission, tell them to go fuck themselves. If they're in your house, you can toss them out. YOU can do whatever you want. YOU can't breach the first amendment, only the government can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago* (1 child) It also doesn't apply outside the US (there's a whole planet out there guys) so regardless of the nuance of its construction, it isn't relevant here anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago thanks @MBech@feddit.dk and @echodot@feddit.uk, I was about reply these two points and then saw your replies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago thanks @MBech@feddit.dk and @echodot@feddit.uk, I was about reply these two points and then saw your replies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) But they are allowed to debate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 3 days ago Depends on the debate. The government can't stop them from debating. If you host a debate though, without any government affiliation, you're not forced to let them attend. In the same way, if you own a forum on the internet, you can silence anyone you want to. The literal ONLY thing the first amendment protects against, is government persecution for speech. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how people react to said speech. Just because someone cries "Muh first amendment!" doesn't mean you actually have to respect them. You can shame them, silence them, ostracise them. Put up billboards telling people how fucking insane they are. Take out an ad in the local newspaper to display their bullshit in an attempt to shame them into submission, tell them to go fuck themselves. If they're in your house, you can toss them out. YOU can do whatever you want. YOU can't breach the first amendment, only the government can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 3 days ago Depends on the debate. The government can't stop them from debating. If you host a debate though, without any government affiliation, you're not forced to let them attend. In the same way, if you own a forum on the internet, you can silence anyone you want to. The literal ONLY thing the first amendment protects against, is government persecution for speech. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how people react to said speech. Just because someone cries "Muh first amendment!" doesn't mean you actually have to respect them. You can shame them, silence them, ostracise them. Put up billboards telling people how fucking insane they are. Take out an ad in the local newspaper to display their bullshit in an attempt to shame them into submission, tell them to go fuck themselves. If they're in your house, you can toss them out. YOU can do whatever you want. YOU can't breach the first amendment, only the government can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 child) Bullshit, voyeurism is a felony in most states. Invading someone's privacy isn't covered by the first fucking amendment you dolt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 days ago (1 child) I answered why it's still debatable. Debating is free speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 child) anything is debatable, it doesn't make it legal or ethical. creeping on people with hidden cameras is fucking gross and needs even more regulation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago Correct. Doctor should have his head put through the wall. Use a stud finder so you don't miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -11 points 3 days ago (1 child) I answered why it's still debatable. Debating is free speech. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 child) anything is debatable, it doesn't make it legal or ethical. creeping on people with hidden cameras is fucking gross and needs even more regulation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago Correct. Doctor should have his head put through the wall. Use a stud finder so you don't miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 child) anything is debatable, it doesn't make it legal or ethical. creeping on people with hidden cameras is fucking gross and needs even more regulation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago Correct. Doctor should have his head put through the wall. Use a stud finder so you don't miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago Correct. Doctor should have his head put through the wall. Use a stud finder so you don't miss. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) What!? lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) It's why you can't stop the debate. It's not illegal to be wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 child) You don’t have a first amendment right to debate stuff here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 days ago (3 children) I do find it funny how much people hate our society's fundamental rights and want to limit them as much as possible. AIN'T NO FUCKIN FREE SPEECH HERE. WE HATE THAT SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* It’s not that. We just understand what those rights are. And what they’re not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago Fundamental rights? You don't actually have a fundamental right to free speech, nobody has to respect that, only the US government as it pertains to their constitution. None of this applies to the first amendment because IT'S NOT THE US GOVT TRYING TO RESTRICT IT. You're in a world-wide forum. Do you think anyone in another country gives a shit what your government thinks about your US rights? Say what you want, but literally nobody has to care what you think permalink fedilink source parent [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/1357/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 child) It's why you can't stop the debate. It's not illegal to be wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 child) You don’t have a first amendment right to debate stuff here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 days ago (3 children) I do find it funny how much people hate our society's fundamental rights and want to limit them as much as possible. AIN'T NO FUCKIN FREE SPEECH HERE. WE HATE THAT SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* It’s not that. We just understand what those rights are. And what they’re not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago Fundamental rights? You don't actually have a fundamental right to free speech, nobody has to respect that, only the US government as it pertains to their constitution. None of this applies to the first amendment because IT'S NOT THE US GOVT TRYING TO RESTRICT IT. You're in a world-wide forum. Do you think anyone in another country gives a shit what your government thinks about your US rights? Say what you want, but literally nobody has to care what you think permalink fedilink source parent [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/1357/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 child) You don’t have a first amendment right to debate stuff here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 days ago (3 children) I do find it funny how much people hate our society's fundamental rights and want to limit them as much as possible. AIN'T NO FUCKIN FREE SPEECH HERE. WE HATE THAT SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* It’s not that. We just understand what those rights are. And what they’re not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago Fundamental rights? You don't actually have a fundamental right to free speech, nobody has to respect that, only the US government as it pertains to their constitution. None of this applies to the first amendment because IT'S NOT THE US GOVT TRYING TO RESTRICT IT. You're in a world-wide forum. Do you think anyone in another country gives a shit what your government thinks about your US rights? Say what you want, but literally nobody has to care what you think permalink fedilink source parent [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/1357/ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -10 points 3 days ago (3 children) I do find it funny how much people hate our society's fundamental rights and want to limit them as much as possible. AIN'T NO FUCKIN FREE SPEECH HERE. WE HATE THAT SHIT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* It’s not that. We just understand what those rights are. And what they’re not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago Fundamental rights? You don't actually have a fundamental right to free speech, nobody has to respect that, only the US government as it pertains to their constitution. None of this applies to the first amendment because IT'S NOT THE US GOVT TRYING TO RESTRICT IT. You're in a world-wide forum. Do you think anyone in another country gives a shit what your government thinks about your US rights? Say what you want, but literally nobody has to care what you think permalink fedilink source parent [–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/1357/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* It’s not that. We just understand what those rights are. And what they’re not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago Fundamental rights? You don't actually have a fundamental right to free speech, nobody has to respect that, only the US government as it pertains to their constitution. None of this applies to the first amendment because IT'S NOT THE US GOVT TRYING TO RESTRICT IT. You're in a world-wide forum. Do you think anyone in another country gives a shit what your government thinks about your US rights? Say what you want, but literally nobody has to care what you think permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bugbear@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago Obligatory XKCD https://xkcd.com/1357/ permalink fedilink source parent