▲ 630 ▼ Dev at id Software says Microsoft 'burned a lot of bridges' in the industry: 'They fundamentally don't understand art, they don't understand games' (www.pcgamer.com) submitted 3 days ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 114 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (2 children) Yeah, this isn't news and the studio owners who can cash big checks to sell don't care. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 23 points 2 days ago (1 child) I have talked to a mobile game Dev, a very drunker heart to heart. He had an India mobile game (like alto). He made about 120k in 5 years between two versions of the game. And then some tenent adjacent studio offered him 650k for the IP. In his words "All I could think was that in 650k, my house would be paid. My education loan would be paid and I would still have enough money to ensure my kid goes to college and not worry about an education loan. I knew selling game would mean enshittification of my baby. But then i looked at my actual baby and I knew I had to betray the digital one" That's the first time I saw it from the dev point of view. He wanted to keep the project, but between choosing fans of his games that can't keep a subreddit alive and doing right by no name, no face fan base vs 650k hard cash from a shitty studio that would concretely secure his family's future. I am not sure if I would hold out. I know it's not the same with the studio Microsoft bought..... But I can't help but wonder people who sellout might not be such horrible pieces of shit that we imagine them to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (2 children) When you're young you tend to think accepting money means you're a sellout. When you're an adult you think accepting money means you're taking care of your family. Also adults are less likely to think video games are the most important thing in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago Absolutely. At the end of the day they're just games. The rabid fans spewing vitriol have no perspective. permalink fedilink source parent [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, right? Like, that deal sounds like a no-brainer, to me. Sure, the game could go viral and explode and make money hand over fist, and he's missing out on that potential... But it probably won't. And $650K is a lot of money, and he doesn't need to keep grinding for years to make it happen. With a paid off house, it's easy to stay afloat just coasting until he finds something new that excites him. Who wouldn't take that deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] paraplu@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 child) It's also plausibly enough money to make a new labor of love game for quite a while. Like even if you are in a position where you want to take care of the players or whatever, $650k helps towards doing that. Even with your priorities in a weird order like that, it still seems obvious that you'd take the money and start a new project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 point 16 hours ago 💯 permalink fedilink source parent [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Microsoft has a lot more problems than that, but I suppose that's the only one Steve Jobs would care about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (1 child) Steve engineers developed the iPod Touch in secret because they thought he would look at the ugly prototype and can the whole project Jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago Steve so impossible to please as a boss that his worker developed an application for him to develop a calculator layout because nothing the other designer did was ever good enough Jobs. Steve the iPad won't get a calculator for fourteen years even though his corpse is long since dead and buried Jobs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 23 points 2 days ago (1 child) I have talked to a mobile game Dev, a very drunker heart to heart. He had an India mobile game (like alto). He made about 120k in 5 years between two versions of the game. And then some tenent adjacent studio offered him 650k for the IP. In his words "All I could think was that in 650k, my house would be paid. My education loan would be paid and I would still have enough money to ensure my kid goes to college and not worry about an education loan. I knew selling game would mean enshittification of my baby. But then i looked at my actual baby and I knew I had to betray the digital one" That's the first time I saw it from the dev point of view. He wanted to keep the project, but between choosing fans of his games that can't keep a subreddit alive and doing right by no name, no face fan base vs 650k hard cash from a shitty studio that would concretely secure his family's future. I am not sure if I would hold out. I know it's not the same with the studio Microsoft bought..... But I can't help but wonder people who sellout might not be such horrible pieces of shit that we imagine them to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (2 children) When you're young you tend to think accepting money means you're a sellout. When you're an adult you think accepting money means you're taking care of your family. Also adults are less likely to think video games are the most important thing in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago Absolutely. At the end of the day they're just games. The rabid fans spewing vitriol have no perspective. permalink fedilink source parent [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, right? Like, that deal sounds like a no-brainer, to me. Sure, the game could go viral and explode and make money hand over fist, and he's missing out on that potential... But it probably won't. And $650K is a lot of money, and he doesn't need to keep grinding for years to make it happen. With a paid off house, it's easy to stay afloat just coasting until he finds something new that excites him. Who wouldn't take that deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] paraplu@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 child) It's also plausibly enough money to make a new labor of love game for quite a while. Like even if you are in a position where you want to take care of the players or whatever, $650k helps towards doing that. Even with your priorities in a weird order like that, it still seems obvious that you'd take the money and start a new project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 point 16 hours ago 💯 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (2 children) When you're young you tend to think accepting money means you're a sellout. When you're an adult you think accepting money means you're taking care of your family. Also adults are less likely to think video games are the most important thing in the world. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago Absolutely. At the end of the day they're just games. The rabid fans spewing vitriol have no perspective. permalink fedilink source parent [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, right? Like, that deal sounds like a no-brainer, to me. Sure, the game could go viral and explode and make money hand over fist, and he's missing out on that potential... But it probably won't. And $650K is a lot of money, and he doesn't need to keep grinding for years to make it happen. With a paid off house, it's easy to stay afloat just coasting until he finds something new that excites him. Who wouldn't take that deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] paraplu@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 child) It's also plausibly enough money to make a new labor of love game for quite a while. Like even if you are in a position where you want to take care of the players or whatever, $650k helps towards doing that. Even with your priorities in a weird order like that, it still seems obvious that you'd take the money and start a new project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 point 16 hours ago 💯 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago Absolutely. At the end of the day they're just games. The rabid fans spewing vitriol have no perspective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Yeah, right? Like, that deal sounds like a no-brainer, to me. Sure, the game could go viral and explode and make money hand over fist, and he's missing out on that potential... But it probably won't. And $650K is a lot of money, and he doesn't need to keep grinding for years to make it happen. With a paid off house, it's easy to stay afloat just coasting until he finds something new that excites him. Who wouldn't take that deal? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] paraplu@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 child) It's also plausibly enough money to make a new labor of love game for quite a while. Like even if you are in a position where you want to take care of the players or whatever, $650k helps towards doing that. Even with your priorities in a weird order like that, it still seems obvious that you'd take the money and start a new project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 point 16 hours ago 💯 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paraplu@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 child) It's also plausibly enough money to make a new labor of love game for quite a while. Like even if you are in a position where you want to take care of the players or whatever, $650k helps towards doing that. Even with your priorities in a weird order like that, it still seems obvious that you'd take the money and start a new project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 point 16 hours ago 💯 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 child) Microsoft has a lot more problems than that, but I suppose that's the only one Steve Jobs would care about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (1 child) Steve engineers developed the iPod Touch in secret because they thought he would look at the ugly prototype and can the whole project Jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago Steve so impossible to please as a boss that his worker developed an application for him to develop a calculator layout because nothing the other designer did was ever good enough Jobs. Steve the iPad won't get a calculator for fourteen years even though his corpse is long since dead and buried Jobs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago (1 child) Steve engineers developed the iPod Touch in secret because they thought he would look at the ugly prototype and can the whole project Jobs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago Steve so impossible to please as a boss that his worker developed an application for him to develop a calculator layout because nothing the other designer did was ever good enough Jobs. Steve the iPad won't get a calculator for fourteen years even though his corpse is long since dead and buried Jobs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dojan@pawb.social 8 points 2 days ago Steve so impossible to please as a boss that his worker developed an application for him to develop a calculator layout because nothing the other designer did was ever good enough Jobs. Steve the iPad won't get a calculator for fourteen years even though his corpse is long since dead and buried Jobs. permalink fedilink source parent