▲ 150 ▼ Pixel Fans are leaving Google and I Finally Understand Why (www.howtogeek.com) submitted 2 days ago by EastofEdson@piefed.ca to c/android@lemmy.world 113 comments fedilink hide all child comments I still love my Pixel 6 and I am thinking of grabbing a used Pixel 8 to run GrapheneOS. I am not one to chase the latest benchmarks. Any phone made in the past five years or so is perfectly capable once you take the bloat out.
[–] BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 days ago (2 children) Currently running GrapheneOS on a pixel 8. It's the best mobile experience I've ever had. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago I'm on a 9 and yeah I couldn't agree more. I bought the pixel second hand (no support for new stock in NZ) but it was so worth it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 15 points 2 days ago (13 children) No problems with banking apps refusing to work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Pixel 9 running GOS. My bank's app (Lloyds) won't work, and never has for me. Additionally, I have a store card, and credit card app, both of which are offered by NewDay, neither of which work on my phone. The official UK government ID app won't work with it either. But honestly, I'll take that inconvenience over letting Google have free reign over my phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 15 hours ago (1 child) I wish I had your willingness to deal with these problems. I'm tired. I just want to go on with my life without all those troubles. When I was younger, I was spending days trying to make everything work on my Cyanogenmod... and before that, I was already tinkering with Linux. But I'm tired. I wish companies weren't pieces of shit and they just let us use an open system. :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 point 3 hours ago To be honest, they're not really problems as such, more a case of resetting expectations back a few years. While I had gotten very used to being able to pay for everything with Apple Pay on the 13 mini I had previously, all I've had to do with my Pixel 9 is buy a magsafe wallet (and magsafe case for the magsafe-less phone). And for everything else, there's a web site. It's kind of annoying having to use an SMS 2FA code EVERY TIME I log into my bank's site, but not particularly inconvenient. I will caveat my comments by noting that I do have Play services installed, so there are some Google features on my phone. Mostly that was to help soften the transition between having everything available to me through Apple's services to having nothing available in Graphene. But my understanding is that Google's footprint in Graphene is significantly less intrusive, and mostly limited by guardrails that I can set. permalink fedilink source parent [–] philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago Some banking apps work fine. There's a list somewhere. Fortunately my bank does work permalink fedilink source parent [–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 1 day ago I also use GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8 here. My banking apps don't work. They used to work just fine, but they decided to push updates making the apps ununsable on non-Google certified OSes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Exploit compatibility mode fixed my banking apps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Monkyhands@feddit.dk 13 points 2 days ago Depends on the bank. My banking app works fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago you can get around a lot of detection with stuff like microg/kernelsu and other layers of arcane bullshit technomagic permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago Mine works. The app always cries about lack of play services, but the notification has an ignore-button and it hasnt created problems yet permalink fedilink source parent [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) List of potential workarounds for problematic apps: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/8330-app-compatibility-with-grapheneos Also includes a link to an unofficial list of known working/not working bank apps. If the app still doesnt work there is a link to documentation for the app developers on how to implement support. It is good to include it if reaching out to your bank about this issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago Personally, no. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago Consors bank app works, but I prefer hardware TAN generators and a desktop browser. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) GrapheneOS has a community maintained compatibility list. Mine was on the list and it works well, and its updated quickly if something breaks or a new provider manages to work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] odioLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago my bank app refuses to run if the installation source is not Google Play Services. I make a private space with GPS for the app and that solves my issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 2 days ago* (3 children) Use a computer, or a web site. Or a bank. Why would you ever carry your entire life’s worth in your pocket. Ever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (2 children) Here banks use their proprietary app for 2fa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 hours ago So that’s justification for being robbed via phone? Delete the app after every use. I’d go into my bank and fill out a paper form versus that malarkey. Especially given banking apps track so much side data for their stupid hustles. It’s like someone in 1600s Europe traveling with a chest that contains their entire life’s gold coins and documentation of every action they performed in the world everywhere. Makes no sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) So if you don’t have a cel phone you can’t bank at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Nope. It’s that way many places now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago In many countries you don't get a choice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago I only use my computer to check my bank, but I'll need my bank app for their proprietary 2FA. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago I'm on a 9 and yeah I couldn't agree more. I bought the pixel second hand (no support for new stock in NZ) but it was so worth it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 15 points 2 days ago (13 children) No problems with banking apps refusing to work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 26 child comments replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Pixel 9 running GOS. My bank's app (Lloyds) won't work, and never has for me. Additionally, I have a store card, and credit card app, both of which are offered by NewDay, neither of which work on my phone. The official UK government ID app won't work with it either. But honestly, I'll take that inconvenience over letting Google have free reign over my phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 15 hours ago (1 child) I wish I had your willingness to deal with these problems. I'm tired. I just want to go on with my life without all those troubles. When I was younger, I was spending days trying to make everything work on my Cyanogenmod... and before that, I was already tinkering with Linux. But I'm tired. I wish companies weren't pieces of shit and they just let us use an open system. :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 point 3 hours ago To be honest, they're not really problems as such, more a case of resetting expectations back a few years. While I had gotten very used to being able to pay for everything with Apple Pay on the 13 mini I had previously, all I've had to do with my Pixel 9 is buy a magsafe wallet (and magsafe case for the magsafe-less phone). And for everything else, there's a web site. It's kind of annoying having to use an SMS 2FA code EVERY TIME I log into my bank's site, but not particularly inconvenient. I will caveat my comments by noting that I do have Play services installed, so there are some Google features on my phone. Mostly that was to help soften the transition between having everything available to me through Apple's services to having nothing available in Graphene. But my understanding is that Google's footprint in Graphene is significantly less intrusive, and mostly limited by guardrails that I can set. permalink fedilink source parent [–] philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago Some banking apps work fine. There's a list somewhere. Fortunately my bank does work permalink fedilink source parent [–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 1 day ago I also use GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8 here. My banking apps don't work. They used to work just fine, but they decided to push updates making the apps ununsable on non-Google certified OSes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Exploit compatibility mode fixed my banking apps. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Monkyhands@feddit.dk 13 points 2 days ago Depends on the bank. My banking app works fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago you can get around a lot of detection with stuff like microg/kernelsu and other layers of arcane bullshit technomagic permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago Mine works. The app always cries about lack of play services, but the notification has an ignore-button and it hasnt created problems yet permalink fedilink source parent [–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) List of potential workarounds for problematic apps: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/8330-app-compatibility-with-grapheneos Also includes a link to an unofficial list of known working/not working bank apps. If the app still doesnt work there is a link to documentation for the app developers on how to implement support. It is good to include it if reaching out to your bank about this issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BottleBoardBakon@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago Personally, no. permalink fedilink source parent [–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago Consors bank app works, but I prefer hardware TAN generators and a desktop browser. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) GrapheneOS has a community maintained compatibility list. Mine was on the list and it works well, and its updated quickly if something breaks or a new provider manages to work. permalink fedilink source parent [–] odioLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago my bank app refuses to run if the installation source is not Google Play Services. I make a private space with GPS for the app and that solves my issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 2 days ago* (3 children) Use a computer, or a web site. Or a bank. Why would you ever carry your entire life’s worth in your pocket. Ever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (2 children) Here banks use their proprietary app for 2fa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 hours ago So that’s justification for being robbed via phone? Delete the app after every use. I’d go into my bank and fill out a paper form versus that malarkey. Especially given banking apps track so much side data for their stupid hustles. It’s like someone in 1600s Europe traveling with a chest that contains their entire life’s gold coins and documentation of every action they performed in the world everywhere. Makes no sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) So if you don’t have a cel phone you can’t bank at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Nope. It’s that way many places now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago In many countries you don't get a choice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago I only use my computer to check my bank, but I'll need my bank app for their proprietary 2FA. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] djdarren@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago (1 child) Pixel 9 running GOS. My bank's app (Lloyds) won't work, and never has for me. Additionally, I have a store card, and credit card app, both of which are offered by NewDay, neither of which work on my phone. The official UK government ID app won't work with it either. But honestly, I'll take that inconvenience over letting Google have free reign over my phone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 15 hours ago (1 child) I wish I had your willingness to deal with these problems. I'm tired. I just want to go on with my life without all those troubles. When I was younger, I was spending days trying to make everything work on my Cyanogenmod... and before that, I was already tinkering with Linux. But I'm tired. I wish companies weren't pieces of shit and they just let us use an open system. :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 point 3 hours ago To be honest, they're not really problems as such, more a case of resetting expectations back a few years. While I had gotten very used to being able to pay for everything with Apple Pay on the 13 mini I had previously, all I've had to do with my Pixel 9 is buy a magsafe wallet (and magsafe case for the magsafe-less phone). And for everything else, there's a web site. It's kind of annoying having to use an SMS 2FA code EVERY TIME I log into my bank's site, but not particularly inconvenient. I will caveat my comments by noting that I do have Play services installed, so there are some Google features on my phone. Mostly that was to help soften the transition between having everything available to me through Apple's services to having nothing available in Graphene. But my understanding is that Google's footprint in Graphene is significantly less intrusive, and mostly limited by guardrails that I can set. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 2 points 15 hours ago (1 child) I wish I had your willingness to deal with these problems. I'm tired. I just want to go on with my life without all those troubles. When I was younger, I was spending days trying to make everything work on my Cyanogenmod... and before that, I was already tinkering with Linux. But I'm tired. I wish companies weren't pieces of shit and they just let us use an open system. :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 point 3 hours ago To be honest, they're not really problems as such, more a case of resetting expectations back a few years. While I had gotten very used to being able to pay for everything with Apple Pay on the 13 mini I had previously, all I've had to do with my Pixel 9 is buy a magsafe wallet (and magsafe case for the magsafe-less phone). And for everything else, there's a web site. It's kind of annoying having to use an SMS 2FA code EVERY TIME I log into my bank's site, but not particularly inconvenient. I will caveat my comments by noting that I do have Play services installed, so there are some Google features on my phone. Mostly that was to help soften the transition between having everything available to me through Apple's services to having nothing available in Graphene. But my understanding is that Google's footprint in Graphene is significantly less intrusive, and mostly limited by guardrails that I can set. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 point 3 hours ago To be honest, they're not really problems as such, more a case of resetting expectations back a few years. While I had gotten very used to being able to pay for everything with Apple Pay on the 13 mini I had previously, all I've had to do with my Pixel 9 is buy a magsafe wallet (and magsafe case for the magsafe-less phone). And for everything else, there's a web site. It's kind of annoying having to use an SMS 2FA code EVERY TIME I log into my bank's site, but not particularly inconvenient. I will caveat my comments by noting that I do have Play services installed, so there are some Google features on my phone. Mostly that was to help soften the transition between having everything available to me through Apple's services to having nothing available in Graphene. But my understanding is that Google's footprint in Graphene is significantly less intrusive, and mostly limited by guardrails that I can set. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago Some banking apps work fine. There's a list somewhere. Fortunately my bank does work permalink fedilink source parent
[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 1 day ago I also use GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8 here. My banking apps don't work. They used to work just fine, but they decided to push updates making the apps ununsable on non-Google certified OSes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 day ago Exploit compatibility mode fixed my banking apps. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Monkyhands@feddit.dk 13 points 2 days ago Depends on the bank. My banking app works fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago you can get around a lot of detection with stuff like microg/kernelsu and other layers of arcane bullshit technomagic permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago Mine works. The app always cries about lack of play services, but the notification has an ignore-button and it hasnt created problems yet permalink fedilink source parent
[–] beyoublahaj@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) List of potential workarounds for problematic apps: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/8330-app-compatibility-with-grapheneos Also includes a link to an unofficial list of known working/not working bank apps. If the app still doesnt work there is a link to documentation for the app developers on how to implement support. It is good to include it if reaching out to your bank about this issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago Consors bank app works, but I prefer hardware TAN generators and a desktop browser. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) GrapheneOS has a community maintained compatibility list. Mine was on the list and it works well, and its updated quickly if something breaks or a new provider manages to work. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] odioLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago my bank app refuses to run if the installation source is not Google Play Services. I make a private space with GPS for the app and that solves my issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 2 days ago* (3 children) Use a computer, or a web site. Or a bank. Why would you ever carry your entire life’s worth in your pocket. Ever? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (2 children) Here banks use their proprietary app for 2fa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 hours ago So that’s justification for being robbed via phone? Delete the app after every use. I’d go into my bank and fill out a paper form versus that malarkey. Especially given banking apps track so much side data for their stupid hustles. It’s like someone in 1600s Europe traveling with a chest that contains their entire life’s gold coins and documentation of every action they performed in the world everywhere. Makes no sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) So if you don’t have a cel phone you can’t bank at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Nope. It’s that way many places now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago In many countries you don't get a choice. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago I only use my computer to check my bank, but I'll need my bank app for their proprietary 2FA. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (2 children) Here banks use their proprietary app for 2fa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 hours ago So that’s justification for being robbed via phone? Delete the app after every use. I’d go into my bank and fill out a paper form versus that malarkey. Especially given banking apps track so much side data for their stupid hustles. It’s like someone in 1600s Europe traveling with a chest that contains their entire life’s gold coins and documentation of every action they performed in the world everywhere. Makes no sense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) So if you don’t have a cel phone you can’t bank at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Nope. It’s that way many places now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 3 hours ago So that’s justification for being robbed via phone? Delete the app after every use. I’d go into my bank and fill out a paper form versus that malarkey. Especially given banking apps track so much side data for their stupid hustles. It’s like someone in 1600s Europe traveling with a chest that contains their entire life’s gold coins and documentation of every action they performed in the world everywhere. Makes no sense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 child) So if you don’t have a cel phone you can’t bank at all? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Nope. It’s that way many places now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago Nope. It’s that way many places now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago In many countries you don't get a choice. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago I only use my computer to check my bank, but I'll need my bank app for their proprietary 2FA. permalink fedilink source parent