▲ 249 ▼ No Google, Adding Biometrics is the Opposite of Security and Privacy (infosec.pub) submitted 1 week ago by CubitOom@infosec.pub to c/cybersecurity@sh.itjust.works 109 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) just wipe your phone They're testing that in court right now. That might be "destruction of evidence" after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) That's not though?! At least I'm assuming there's a difference between wiping a device in preparation to go to a border crossing and wiping a device while in police custody/being detained for further screening by Border Patrol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) We'll see. This court decision will determine if distress codes are destruction of evidence, which is different, but I don't think it's much of a stretch to think they'd extend that to wiping your phone before traveling too. Why not? They hate you. The only real defense would be having a burner, it'd break too many things to make it illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The only reason it's considered destruction of evidence is because he was "allegedly" under investigation. I think what the other guy is saying is when you are traveling, wiping your device before you go to the airport, rather than doing so once you are essentially in custody. I think it was stupid to give the distress pin when Graphene is already hardened unless he had something specific he was looking to hide, but I also recognize that ICE don't need a warranty to search you and they can keep you indefinitely. So the other guy is also probably right that cops have a lot of time and resources. A password isn't a good lock. I also think nobody has thought about the fact that they want people to think that they have something to hide. They want us to be afraid. I think this drama about biometrics is a really good example. Scare people away from biometrics. Scare people away from Graphene OS. Leave us in the hands of tech corps who will hand over whatever they ask for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) That's not though?! At least I'm assuming there's a difference between wiping a device in preparation to go to a border crossing and wiping a device while in police custody/being detained for further screening by Border Patrol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) We'll see. This court decision will determine if distress codes are destruction of evidence, which is different, but I don't think it's much of a stretch to think they'd extend that to wiping your phone before traveling too. Why not? They hate you. The only real defense would be having a burner, it'd break too many things to make it illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The only reason it's considered destruction of evidence is because he was "allegedly" under investigation. I think what the other guy is saying is when you are traveling, wiping your device before you go to the airport, rather than doing so once you are essentially in custody. I think it was stupid to give the distress pin when Graphene is already hardened unless he had something specific he was looking to hide, but I also recognize that ICE don't need a warranty to search you and they can keep you indefinitely. So the other guy is also probably right that cops have a lot of time and resources. A password isn't a good lock. I also think nobody has thought about the fact that they want people to think that they have something to hide. They want us to be afraid. I think this drama about biometrics is a really good example. Scare people away from biometrics. Scare people away from Graphene OS. Leave us in the hands of tech corps who will hand over whatever they ask for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 week ago* (1 child) We'll see. This court decision will determine if distress codes are destruction of evidence, which is different, but I don't think it's much of a stretch to think they'd extend that to wiping your phone before traveling too. Why not? They hate you. The only real defense would be having a burner, it'd break too many things to make it illegal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The only reason it's considered destruction of evidence is because he was "allegedly" under investigation. I think what the other guy is saying is when you are traveling, wiping your device before you go to the airport, rather than doing so once you are essentially in custody. I think it was stupid to give the distress pin when Graphene is already hardened unless he had something specific he was looking to hide, but I also recognize that ICE don't need a warranty to search you and they can keep you indefinitely. So the other guy is also probably right that cops have a lot of time and resources. A password isn't a good lock. I also think nobody has thought about the fact that they want people to think that they have something to hide. They want us to be afraid. I think this drama about biometrics is a really good example. Scare people away from biometrics. Scare people away from Graphene OS. Leave us in the hands of tech corps who will hand over whatever they ask for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 1 week ago The only reason it's considered destruction of evidence is because he was "allegedly" under investigation. I think what the other guy is saying is when you are traveling, wiping your device before you go to the airport, rather than doing so once you are essentially in custody. I think it was stupid to give the distress pin when Graphene is already hardened unless he had something specific he was looking to hide, but I also recognize that ICE don't need a warranty to search you and they can keep you indefinitely. So the other guy is also probably right that cops have a lot of time and resources. A password isn't a good lock. I also think nobody has thought about the fact that they want people to think that they have something to hide. They want us to be afraid. I think this drama about biometrics is a really good example. Scare people away from biometrics. Scare people away from Graphene OS. Leave us in the hands of tech corps who will hand over whatever they ask for. permalink fedilink source parent
