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[–] 162 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I don't really think it's the press's fault. I think America simply doesn't give a shit anymore. They seem to be completely inured to the crime, corruption, fascism, blatant lies, performative cruelty, election interference, embarrassment on the global stage, etc.

It's very peculiar.

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  • [–] 106 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    I’m sure it seems like that from the outside. There’s so many of us inside that are fully sick of this, but we also all feel helpless for a number of reasons.

    Nobody wants to be alone in making the first move of outward revolution.

    None of us can afford to take a week off, much less the foreseeable future off to plan and execute any kind of meaningful action.

    Once we lose our job from participating in said action, we don’t have healthcare anymore.

    We’ve got to be so far past the point of no return that the status quo can’t continue before most people will be able to do anything.

    Combine that with the press hiding most of this from the people, and people still wanting to hold out hope for…something…and you’re where we are at.

    I’m crossing my fingers that the midterms (or lack thereof) will be the turning point.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I was reading about the French Revolution yesterday and the thing that really got things started was mass starvation. Something like 90% of French citizens were actively starving.

    There will need to be a singular suffering affecting 90+% of people before we'll all take to the streets and put heads on pikes. I'm guessing climate change might get us there.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Tbh with the sheer scale of America I doubt even mass starvation will work. The government could probably just keep the states immediately around the capitol sated and leave the rest of the country to die and most people won't be able to afford travel to the capitol to riot. I bring this up in every thread but to travel from the west coast to Maryland to start a riot is the same distance as traveling from Ireland to Moscow to riot. And we have barely functional trains.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Well there are local governments. The federal government can't exert it's control by itself.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    I mean... it literally can. Only ~20 states have their own State Defense Force and the federal government can turn any state's national guard on its own people. The national guard has been actively leveraged to help ICE brutalize and disappear immigrants and American citizens already.

    Also if we were to consume Gavin Newsom, for example, that does not help us get a functional federal government back.

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  • I mean. "The Hunger Games" is a real book and series that kind of thoroughly shows just how fucked the United States of America is.

    It even matches your point. They lavish food and gifts on the first two districts (District 1 producing luxery goods, and District 2 producing police/armed forces). Then tie the rest into fighting amongst themselves over measly leftovers.

    Still didn't last terribly long or peacefully, but multiple generations is still a gut punch.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I don't think starving will stop his supporters as long as "the libs" are starving, too.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    We don’t need his supporters on our side. It would be nice, but once the rest of us are starving too there’s more of us.

    Hopefully though, we can finally get through to them that it’s the ~2000 billionaires or so actively waking up each morning and deciding not to end world hunger that are the actual issue.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I totally get your point,

    I’m crossing my fingers that the midterms (or lack thereof) will be the turning point.

    but a friendly reminder to everyone in that same position: hope is not a strategy. At least try to come up with a plan for when it get worse. Do not be naive; as long as it can get worse, it likely will be.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    No, you’re completely right. Hope is not enough. I’m also planning, but need to have hope that others outside my circle are too.

    It will get worse. In fact, it has to - or else the majority of people will just brush their hands and say “hey we fixed it, nice job” …kinda like Biden 2020.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    From the outside it looks like it’s similar to turning a big ship in a way. It’s just taking time for it to turn; meaning enough to get sick of it. It’s definitely wrong now to say nothings being done by people, you’ve only got to look at the videos people are taking of the migration police to see there’s resistance flowing through.

    This situation here is a clear abandonment of media responsibility. Journalists themselves, or their profession, will take the reputational fall for this and it won’t matter if that’s fair to them or not. The right kind of reporting on this would go a long way to driving resistance against it.

    Yeah I hope the midterms are somehow fair and held. It’s the best solution. I hope people turn out for them too if they are. The more that do, the harder it should be to rig or prevent voting at the polling booths.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    The people don't pay the press. The oligarchs captured the press, and now when the press reports what concerns the people, the oligarchs punish them. Part of this started cos we stopped paying the press. This is why I have a couple of newspaper subscriptions. More people should, so we can pay the press to report what concerns us.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    Well I pay for good press, but it needs to be good for me to pay for it.

    I have a feeling that was happening with the press regardless of subscription, but you raise a point

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    "Well I pay for good press" <- does your use of the expression mean that you will only pay if you find good press, and are therefore not paying for press because you don't find it up to your standards?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    I don’t pay for it unless it’s up to my standards

    Like anything else I decide to pay for or subscribe to

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  • [–] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Its not peculiar, its by design. Flood the people with so much "News" all the time that they stop paying attention. You can only keep up with so much before you just stop trying. Even those of us still paying attention have to take breaks or go mad.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I think you mean buy up all the news outlets. Make them mouth pieces for the rich rather than focusing on facts. Discredit news as fake and watch people turn to their echo chambers to learn about anything and nothing at the same time. How many people including yourself do you knowtjay doesn't trust the news. Gotta be close to batting a thousand at this point no?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago*

    I can’t do it anymore because the “press” are actually just fascist influencers and they are all lying. I don’t believe a single thing any journalist had to say. I don’t believe a single thing the government has to say. I’ll never respect the rapist president. I’ll never accept the heroin addict running the health department. Countries are ideas and this one is fucking dead.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 week ago (23 children)

    What the fuck is left for us to do. I’m surrounded by low iq inbred hillbillies that eat the shit they are fed right up. Vote? I did. Against this shit. Didint work. The cops will kill you. We don’t really have any options. It’s a disaster. The pedo is on control of everything. There is no checks and balances.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago

    You might be doing all you can but WE as the collective aren’t doing jack shit. I see our people going to Chick-fil-A like there’s no other food available. Buying cheap tshirts from Walmart or Amazon. Thinking walking in circles in scheduled areas is a protest.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    so, this might be kind of a risky comment but please bear with me

    i mean the problem starts within yourself, and i don't mean that in an "you're not doing enough" way. the problem starts because we can't even define what a solution would look like. i believe that as soon as we have a better way of doing things, we will. the problem is just that in today's america, there is no significant vision for a worthwhile tomorrow. and that's the actual crisis. if you think that i'm wrong, please do explain how you imagine the future of the country in 40 years.

    and i don't mean "go back to how it was in 2000" or something. that does not work. the crisis is an economic crisis, first and foremost. there's mass automation, already since the 1970s. more and more jobs are being removed, and if new branches of economy stagnate, then we'll eventually run out of jobs. that naturally creates a mass unemployment phenomenon. what do you do about that?

    when you've answered that question, we can think about all the other problems too. :-)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    With prediction markets on the rise, I wouldn't be surprised if "assassination politics" becomes our new economic system. For better or worse, an uncontrollable insurance market will internalize our growing and unaddressed externalities.

    What comes next isn't necessarily what we wished for, it's just whatever survives capitalism attacking its weak points.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    well, it's not like there's a whole lot of options. We have one party that's openly corrupt pedophiles. We have a second party that claims to want to bring them to justice, but in practice they oppose only progressives and support only genocide.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    "Being American" is apparently a facade based off something that appeared briefly in the 1860s.

    You'd think it'd be from 1776, but they love to rip on the French who 100% carried them to independence and was still nice guy enough to gift them a statue for it too. So, first half of the 1860s; that's the first and only time where they stood up for themselves and actually won. The only time they were being American and not just playing make-believe.

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