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Germany Is Trying to Rebuild Its Failed Russian Gas Strategy With Hydrogen (briefing.tfie.io)
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Germany is paying for the station and paying for enough trucks to give the station some customers. That is more than solving a chicken-and-egg problem. It is buying the chicken, the egg and the first few breakfasts.

This would be less interesting if it were an isolated transport experiment. It sits at the end of a much longer effort to give Germany’s gas institutions, infrastructure and industrial constituencies a future after the collapse of Russian gas.

Gerhard Schröder remains the most visible symbol of how close the relationship became. Gazprom owned 51% of the original Nord Stream company and appointed four of the eight members of its shareholders’ committee. Schröder, who had just left the German chancellery, was one of Gazprom’s appointees and became chairman.

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[–] 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There have been 100's of years geopolitical fighting going on, (even today) over oil.

People have put out TRILLIONS in $$$ in large sophisticated long term projects like pipelines, oil-rigs, etc.

You know what has been absolutely abundant that entire time? Hydrogen.

Do you know what crazy physics technology has recently been created related to Hydrogen? None.

Hydrogen doesn't work. It's never worked, and its never going to work. The math isn't there.

Unless you are talking fusion, or some fundamentally new physics has been found that completely upends everything we know about chemistry.

Hydrogen will never be a thing. It's already being carried and store in the best possible manner. Through large chains of carbon.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    its super hard to store, super hard to move about and is a dangerous GHG and fugitive emissions from processing and a storage are high.

    it's just a distraction from the necessity of electrification and changed lifestyles

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    It can work for some things that need direct burnable gas. Otherwise EU will stop using polluting NG and go electric and electric only isn't good for some things. And no, there's no special reason that makes hydrogen impossible to use, it's just finicky with seals and needs more energy to produce. Green hydrogen is basically just solar power converted to chemical energy, and you can use ammonia as simple carrier liquid for long distance transit.

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