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The Antinatalism subreddit basically promoting eugenics against autistic people (lemmy.world)
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[–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I suggest to read more than one article about the double empathy problem at first.

We have multiple papers stating it's the way we are mistreated the issue. Autists don't have a lack of empathy, communication, socialization, non verbal language, etc. We express them in a different way, an Autistic way! This is as valid as the neurotypical way.

We need to stop internalizing ableism and self blaming us for everything and nothing. These are direct consequences of mistreatments too.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    im sure that mistreatment is part of the issue

    im also sure that autism does, at least often, come with real internal stressors that are not the result of their treatment by others, and that make dealing with external stressors more difficult

    i dont take an issue with the added context of conscious or subconscious ableism (though i think its besides the point here, because cruel or not, its still something potential children will still have to deal with)

    i think its important to remember that even if that wasnt a factor, autism will often still impact the quality of life of potential children

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The issue with your explanation is that autism isn't an illness nor a disease nor a disorder. It's a neurotype, a neurological difference.

    It doesn't come with a difference in neurology. It's a different neurology. They're no normal neurology. All of them are egal and valid. When one of them exercises a pressure to be the one, the norm, and doesn't let the others exist, it's discrimination against a minority. This ends with a high suicide number. It has deep implications with trauma, PTSD, cptsd, depression and other mental health issues from a very young age to elderly. When you can't cope anymore, you ...

    And yeah, it's internalized ableism to blame ourselves.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago*

    whether autism is or is not an illness, disease or disorder has no bearing on what i said

    you seem to be misinterpreting my comment as being a judgement of value on autism or autistic folks, which it is not

    my point is based on the common symptoms, effects and predispositions of autism, especially ones that cannot be pinned on mistreatment

    completely and entirely regardless of whether it is a 'valid' or 'normal' neurology or not, and completely and entirely regardless of whether autistic folks can or cannot be blamed for any of it

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