thats great

the reboot is still probably most fans entry point to the franchise and frame of reference for discussing it, especially during a discussion about Bethesda

that is not any kind of dig at the older games, the quality of them is entirely irrelevant to the point i was making

you dont need to come to the defense of them, especially by venting about games that i also do not care about

the difference is that discussions about robocop are exclusively about the original

if youre convinced the wolfenstein and doom reboots have the same impact and relevance as robocop (2014) youre entirely allowed to stay that way, im not gonna try and shake you out of it

I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.

that makes sense, especially since Doom eternal is in fact still developed by id

Wolfenstein and Doom have both reached significantly more people since they got adopted by zenimax though, so most folks who actually played the games will have probably gotten introduced to them as Bethesda published games

“Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW),

lol ok

evidently they dont give much of a shit either way

Dude! The original ones were cultural touchstones in a market that wasn’t yet oversaturated. They literally invented and defined the whole genre!

the original ones were undoubtedly MUCH more popular in their time.

i mean sure, but that also doesnt matter to the point i was making

More people might be playing the new ones NOW

which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom

i assumed they were talking about the bethesda published reboots, what with them being significantly more popular than the earlier games

doom and Wolfenstein are published by bethesda

im so glad that blizzards internal culture and conduct align with microsofts values enough for them to skip the hands-on approach theyve shown with other subsidiaries

what does that even mean? 'ok he supports a genocidal ethnostate, but its only cause of power projection in the middleeast'

sorry, but arent the crimes of their fathers the sole basis for our worshipping them, allowing tbem political power and sending the pricks millions upon millions of tax payer pounds?

you dont reckon its a little disingenuous to complain about people shitting on their heritage when said heritage is the entire argument for their existence

i actively want the UKs overseas influence to wane

i dont think that one comes from white people