▲ 243 ▼ Microsoft Blocks Browser Choice for 1.4 Billion Windows 10/11 Users, Study Finds (research.mozilla.org) submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by beep@piefed.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 46 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1264137/microsoft-blocks-browser-choice-for-1-4-billion-windows-10-11-users-page-84-study-finds PostsLobsters Full Report(PDF). Note: The number in the headline is the total number of Windows 10 and Windows 11 users mentioned in page 84 notes in the report.
[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Welcome back to the year 2000… permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] erictile@lemmy.world 1 point 3 weeks ago permalink fedilink source parent [+] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Eh, Internet Explorer beat out Netscape because the latter was incredibly bloated and could take dozens(plural) of minutes to boot. If you wanted something done quick, if you tried IE you'd be done and moved on by the time Netscape loaded; even if once it loaded it was faster at loading pages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Very hard to take this comment seriously when it doesn't take into account the fact that Internet Explorer was included for free and by default on Windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] adarza@piefed.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) and a lot of ie's bits were loaded into memory with windows itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago Yeah that's the key point there, IE was faster, because it was using your memory even if you didn't want to use it. So loading netscape was running 2 browsers at a time, and thus slower than using 1. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -1 points 3 weeks ago That was my experience growing up at the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Highlow@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) The fuck? IE was absolutely dogs hit performance wise not to mention their non standard support of Javascript (JScript) was horrible. To accommodate IE you needed VBScript to perform well so basically a whole different site. Netscape was always better but once they shoved IE on everyone you were left with doing 2 sites for a smaller percentage. Most corps flat out wanted IE only and VBScript / ASP and cut out the Javascript. Even then you sometimes had to do things ass backwards to make it work on IE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Eh, I remember using Netscape as a kid in school, very rarely, the browser opened up before then end of a class. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -3 points 3 weeks ago That's my lived experience when myself and my friends all chose to stop using NN. It is irrelevant if you believe me or not as that is the truth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* Did a hallucinating bot wrote that comment!?!? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) Eh, Internet Explorer beat out Netscape because the latter was incredibly bloated and could take dozens(plural) of minutes to boot. If you wanted something done quick, if you tried IE you'd be done and moved on by the time Netscape loaded; even if once it loaded it was faster at loading pages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Very hard to take this comment seriously when it doesn't take into account the fact that Internet Explorer was included for free and by default on Windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] adarza@piefed.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) and a lot of ie's bits were loaded into memory with windows itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago Yeah that's the key point there, IE was faster, because it was using your memory even if you didn't want to use it. So loading netscape was running 2 browsers at a time, and thus slower than using 1. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -1 points 3 weeks ago That was my experience growing up at the time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Highlow@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) The fuck? IE was absolutely dogs hit performance wise not to mention their non standard support of Javascript (JScript) was horrible. To accommodate IE you needed VBScript to perform well so basically a whole different site. Netscape was always better but once they shoved IE on everyone you were left with doing 2 sites for a smaller percentage. Most corps flat out wanted IE only and VBScript / ASP and cut out the Javascript. Even then you sometimes had to do things ass backwards to make it work on IE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Eh, I remember using Netscape as a kid in school, very rarely, the browser opened up before then end of a class. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -3 points 3 weeks ago That's my lived experience when myself and my friends all chose to stop using NN. It is irrelevant if you believe me or not as that is the truth. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* Did a hallucinating bot wrote that comment!?!? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) Very hard to take this comment seriously when it doesn't take into account the fact that Internet Explorer was included for free and by default on Windows permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] adarza@piefed.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) and a lot of ie's bits were loaded into memory with windows itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago Yeah that's the key point there, IE was faster, because it was using your memory even if you didn't want to use it. So loading netscape was running 2 browsers at a time, and thus slower than using 1. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -1 points 3 weeks ago That was my experience growing up at the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] adarza@piefed.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) and a lot of ie's bits were loaded into memory with windows itself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago Yeah that's the key point there, IE was faster, because it was using your memory even if you didn't want to use it. So loading netscape was running 2 browsers at a time, and thus slower than using 1. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago Yeah that's the key point there, IE was faster, because it was using your memory even if you didn't want to use it. So loading netscape was running 2 browsers at a time, and thus slower than using 1. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -1 points 3 weeks ago That was my experience growing up at the time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Highlow@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children) The fuck? IE was absolutely dogs hit performance wise not to mention their non standard support of Javascript (JScript) was horrible. To accommodate IE you needed VBScript to perform well so basically a whole different site. Netscape was always better but once they shoved IE on everyone you were left with doing 2 sites for a smaller percentage. Most corps flat out wanted IE only and VBScript / ASP and cut out the Javascript. Even then you sometimes had to do things ass backwards to make it work on IE. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Eh, I remember using Netscape as a kid in school, very rarely, the browser opened up before then end of a class. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -3 points 3 weeks ago That's my lived experience when myself and my friends all chose to stop using NN. It is irrelevant if you believe me or not as that is the truth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) Eh, I remember using Netscape as a kid in school, very rarely, the browser opened up before then end of a class. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io -3 points 3 weeks ago That's my lived experience when myself and my friends all chose to stop using NN. It is irrelevant if you believe me or not as that is the truth. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 weeks ago* Did a hallucinating bot wrote that comment!?!? permalink fedilink source parent