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[+] [M] -69 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

Basic humanity? Graham lacked it, doesn't mean we should.

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  • [–] 105 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

    So if we celebrated hitler's death we lack humanity? People should be free to celebrate a death if they feel to. Forcing your idea of a moral code over people is not nice. We are not talking about celebrating violence, a crime or wishing for somebody's death.

    People should be free to express their feelings if they don't hurt anyone, without having to fear the morality police. The point of modorators should be to create a welcoming and safe space, not to impose your morality on others.

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  • [+] [M] -48 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Doesn't matter if you think it's "nice" or not. It's a rule for this community.

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  • [–] 34 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yes, and you could have answered "thanks for your input, but we are going to stick with our rules because we have our reasons", instead you basically tell me "Doesn't matter what you think, these are the rules and you must respect them. No discussion allowed". I mean sure, you make the rules, but the way you enforce them and react to criticism speaks for itself.

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  • [+] [M] -34 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    I don't make the rules here, but I do enforce them.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I think the larger point is maybe you shouldn't be allowed to, because you've admitted to arbitrarily suspending that rule when someone YOU are fine celebrating dies, like Kissinger.

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  • [+] [M] -9 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    It was a mutual decision, not mine alone.

    I believe the exact quote was "Yeah, rule 6, but fuck that guy."

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    OK, so a better way to phrase that would be that the collective "you" has no business enforcing a rule that "you" decided not to enforce against yourselves, because "you" happened to agree with the death.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    You should answer the question posed though…

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    No, no, you don’t get it. It’s not about being nice, it’s about telegraphing what a good, nonthreatening supplicant you are

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  • [+] [M] -35 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    I already said he was an asshole and cited the reason, that's not supplication.

    You don't have to celebrate death to prove you aren't a supplicant. 😉

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  • [–] 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    You wrote the words “basic humanity” as if that was supposed to make sense as a justification for a rule. Don’t think we’ve seen a reason.

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  • [+] [M] -34 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    Reason enough for people with basic human empathy.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    I have empathy for the people whose lives were made miserable by republican policies graham championed and I celebrate one less champion of those policies fucking people over

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    those policies killed people

    not just made miserable

    fucking killed

    but we’re not supposed to be happy he’s dead?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    It might help you understand WHY you're getting ratioed if you understand this:

    Lindsay Graham was basically a serial killer who used votes rather than knives.

    Imagine a serial killer murdered someone you love. Wouldn't you cheer when you find out he's died? Wouldn't you be happy he is dead and no longer able to harm others the way he harmed your loved one?

    That's how we feel about Graham dying. That's what we're celebrating. Graham is the serial killer who murdered our mama, and we're happy to see him die.

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  • [–] 68 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Jesus fucking Christ. We’re really doing this high road virtue signaling bullshit here, too? Cool. Continue being part of the problem, I guess.

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  • [+] [M] -34 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    If you don't like it, make your own community. It's a stated rule here.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Is there a rule about talking about disliking it? I don’t see one in writing, but it seems like it wouldn’t matter.

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  • [+] [M] -7 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

    Nope, no rule against it so long as you continue being civil about it. Shading over into personal attacks would break rule 3.

    Some communities have a rule against meta commentary, which this would fall under, but we don't have that rule here.

    Which is weird because !world@lemmy.world DOES have that rule and both were set up by the same person. (Rule #6 in World)

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  • [–] 15 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Cool, well, if it’s a real rule and not total nonsense you should probably get to work banning every single person in this comment section who is doing the thing you’re telling me isn’t allowed. Otherwise, I don’t know, it might be seen as obviously a bullshit rule used to selectively stop specific discussions.

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  • [–] 33 points 4 weeks ago (18 children)

    Not positive that you should be enforcing your own personal ethics onto other people. Free speech should be a thing. If a person did bad things and people are glad that he is no longer in a position to do bad things, that is a celebration in itself. Trying to enforce opinions like this is self-congratulatory in that you consider your opinion is superior and worthy of judicial enforcement.

    Note that I haven't in the slightest commented on the man himself, yet still run the risk of banning. It all depends upon the moderator. This happens on Reddit all the time and that's the problem with this kind of moderation. It has a chilling effect. Give a censor a job and they tend to censor.

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  • [+] [M] -9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Freedom of speech is what the government controls. You have no freedom of speech within a private entity like social media.

    The TOS sets the overall rules, each community further defines them.

    The Lemmy instances which are "do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" get de-federated pretty damn quickly due to the raw sewage they pump out.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Would you celebrate the death of Hitler?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago*

    Ok agreed. No surprise night raping or murdering people in colonial genocide projects that Graham Cracker. I hope we'll all live to celebrate that fucker dying some day too.

    Now on the celebrations.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    No. This high road bullshit is why we are in the hole we’re in now. You want to play the game, you need to understand the rules. And you naive to think anything else.

    I won’t condone murder, but this fucker deserves his abrupt death and the vitriol that follows. We will always be at the mercy of those fucks because of people like you and it’s time you understand.

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