▲ 40 ▼ how do you deal with "i have to work, i dont care"? (lemmy.wtf) submitted 3 weeks ago by IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf to c/flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments this is a real thing people have said to me when I brought up that capitalism is evil
[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf [S] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children) they would just say "I dont care" or a variation of "I have to work to buy food" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) "then lets start a community kitchen so we will have more time to spend with our families" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) How does that work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) You start with a goat. You negotiate for some if its blood (this is an anarchist community kitchen, so we gotta go vegan, there's extra steps here). Then you clone that blood in a lab so its no longer directly an animal product. You draw a pentagram with the 'goat' blood in any room with a sink a prep surface and a heating element while chanting a curry burrito recipe. Sacrifice an hour of your time to meetings. End with a bitter argument about whether honey is vegan. And it is done. permalink fedilink source parent [+] oceancloud@discuss.online 1 point 1 week ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] new_world_odor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) "What if things could be different?" Or some variation thereof. Sounds like whoever you're talking to is, unfortunately, neck-deep in the propaganda. They might not even have the concept of a different system that could actually work. A lot of people are conditioned to believe anarchy=chaos, I would try to talk about successful mutual aid projects in your city. "What if 'x' program could impact even more people? Why not?" I think my goal at first would be to change their association with some core concepts, so they don't instinctively recoil. Sorry I don't have more than that, this is a tough one that I've never really figured out myself. Interested to see what others say. Edit: you might also be starting off too big/dramatic? Like yeah I agree capitalism is fundamentally evil, but for someone who's never even played with the concept before, it can feel too huge to even approach, hence "i have to work". Maybe try attacking smaller pieces/more specific aspects of capitalism. "Damn, it's fucked up that blackrock just gets to buy as many houses as they can when people are struggling to pay rent." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] oceancloud@discuss.online 1 point 1 week ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] oceancloud@discuss.online 1 point 1 week ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child) "then lets start a community kitchen so we will have more time to spend with our families" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) How does that work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) You start with a goat. You negotiate for some if its blood (this is an anarchist community kitchen, so we gotta go vegan, there's extra steps here). Then you clone that blood in a lab so its no longer directly an animal product. You draw a pentagram with the 'goat' blood in any room with a sink a prep surface and a heating element while chanting a curry burrito recipe. Sacrifice an hour of your time to meetings. End with a bitter argument about whether honey is vegan. And it is done. permalink fedilink source parent [+] oceancloud@discuss.online 1 point 1 week ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children) How does that work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) You start with a goat. You negotiate for some if its blood (this is an anarchist community kitchen, so we gotta go vegan, there's extra steps here). Then you clone that blood in a lab so its no longer directly an animal product. You draw a pentagram with the 'goat' blood in any room with a sink a prep surface and a heating element while chanting a curry burrito recipe. Sacrifice an hour of your time to meetings. End with a bitter argument about whether honey is vegan. And it is done. permalink fedilink source parent [+] oceancloud@discuss.online 1 point 1 week ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) You start with a goat. You negotiate for some if its blood (this is an anarchist community kitchen, so we gotta go vegan, there's extra steps here). Then you clone that blood in a lab so its no longer directly an animal product. You draw a pentagram with the 'goat' blood in any room with a sink a prep surface and a heating element while chanting a curry burrito recipe. Sacrifice an hour of your time to meetings. End with a bitter argument about whether honey is vegan. And it is done. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] new_world_odor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child) "What if things could be different?" Or some variation thereof. Sounds like whoever you're talking to is, unfortunately, neck-deep in the propaganda. They might not even have the concept of a different system that could actually work. A lot of people are conditioned to believe anarchy=chaos, I would try to talk about successful mutual aid projects in your city. "What if 'x' program could impact even more people? Why not?" I think my goal at first would be to change their association with some core concepts, so they don't instinctively recoil. Sorry I don't have more than that, this is a tough one that I've never really figured out myself. Interested to see what others say. Edit: you might also be starting off too big/dramatic? Like yeah I agree capitalism is fundamentally evil, but for someone who's never even played with the concept before, it can feel too huge to even approach, hence "i have to work". Maybe try attacking smaller pieces/more specific aspects of capitalism. "Damn, it's fucked up that blackrock just gets to buy as many houses as they can when people are struggling to pay rent." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] oceancloud@discuss.online 1 point 1 week ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent