▲ 302 ▼ We are currently witnessing the rise of a new 'Digital Amish' i.e people who refuse to interact with any form of technology made after 2021. (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 month ago* by Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world 130 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 month ago (1 child) Chat started to pop off permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) Chat, ? Pop off? Can you elaborate a little more on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (2 children) "Chat" is ChatGPT and "pop off" is popular or gaining traction. I promise I'm old, I'm just going back to university and am surrounded by children lol Doing HW is why my response lagged, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Thank you for explaining. Language does seem to evolve faster than i can keep up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) The kids today will ask a sort of rhetorical questions out loud and say something like, "chat, should I (under whatever nonsense here)". In this instance, they're pretending to be streamers and ask the viewers. But if someone says, "I'll just ask chat to write my paper (or whathaveyou)." That's ChatGPT. The difference is contextual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's good to know. Thank you. Yeah context can change a lot, but not even knowing the context can make it rather hard to guess any meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Normally I'd say you can ignore it because it'll change soon enough, but I think "ask chat" will become synonymous with "ask ai" similar to how "Google it" is now considered personal research/look it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago When young people say "chat," they're not talking about ChatGPT. Generally speaking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (3 children) Well, 'chat' is Internet Chat, as it's been known for 30 years when it moved from academia to mainstream. 'Pop off' is just this year's slang for "rapidly gain popularity", and it'll be replaced by something equally ephemeral (like with 'fetch', 'fleek', some level of 'rizz' or 'cap') soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loweffortname@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago This comment is streets ahead. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justaman123@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) I thought pop-off was like 10 years old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) Maybe for certain groups of people. It's decades old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago All fads circle back permalink fedilink source parent [–] pfr@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago Can confirm. I'm 40 (oldest Millenial) and shit was poppin-off back in 2010. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Thank you, but that still doesn't really explain why 2021. Chatting services we're popular way before that. Something must have happened in the year 2021 in relation to technology so that this specific year was chosen as last decent production year for technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) This might be my "woosh" moment. But I'll bite. I think they were referring to ChatGPT being let loose on the general public. That kinda marked the start for the current AI bubble and the enshittification of every new tech product with some sort of LLM bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago Yes this permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, I'm genuinely curious why such an odd number, like 2020 would make more sense as it's the beginning of a decade. ChatGPT was released late 2022. So it cant be that one either. Maybe some other AI chat service was released around 2021? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah. Or maybe they just got the number wrong, like I did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago Fair point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I saw a comment somewhere else on Lemmy saying they heard someone refer to asking chatgpt something as "asking chat." So I think it was a meta reference to calling AI chat. And yes, since chatgpt was released in 2022 my cutoff for searches is also 2021, so it makes perfect sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that does make sense, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) Chat, ? Pop off? Can you elaborate a little more on that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (2 children) "Chat" is ChatGPT and "pop off" is popular or gaining traction. I promise I'm old, I'm just going back to university and am surrounded by children lol Doing HW is why my response lagged, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Thank you for explaining. Language does seem to evolve faster than i can keep up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) The kids today will ask a sort of rhetorical questions out loud and say something like, "chat, should I (under whatever nonsense here)". In this instance, they're pretending to be streamers and ask the viewers. But if someone says, "I'll just ask chat to write my paper (or whathaveyou)." That's ChatGPT. The difference is contextual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's good to know. Thank you. Yeah context can change a lot, but not even knowing the context can make it rather hard to guess any meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Normally I'd say you can ignore it because it'll change soon enough, but I think "ask chat" will become synonymous with "ask ai" similar to how "Google it" is now considered personal research/look it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago When young people say "chat," they're not talking about ChatGPT. Generally speaking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (3 children) Well, 'chat' is Internet Chat, as it's been known for 30 years when it moved from academia to mainstream. 'Pop off' is just this year's slang for "rapidly gain popularity", and it'll be replaced by something equally ephemeral (like with 'fetch', 'fleek', some level of 'rizz' or 'cap') soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loweffortname@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago This comment is streets ahead. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justaman123@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) I thought pop-off was like 10 years old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) Maybe for certain groups of people. It's decades old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago All fads circle back permalink fedilink source parent [–] pfr@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago Can confirm. I'm 40 (oldest Millenial) and shit was poppin-off back in 2010. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Thank you, but that still doesn't really explain why 2021. Chatting services we're popular way before that. Something must have happened in the year 2021 in relation to technology so that this specific year was chosen as last decent production year for technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) This might be my "woosh" moment. But I'll bite. I think they were referring to ChatGPT being let loose on the general public. That kinda marked the start for the current AI bubble and the enshittification of every new tech product with some sort of LLM bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago Yes this permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, I'm genuinely curious why such an odd number, like 2020 would make more sense as it's the beginning of a decade. ChatGPT was released late 2022. So it cant be that one either. Maybe some other AI chat service was released around 2021? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah. Or maybe they just got the number wrong, like I did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago Fair point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I saw a comment somewhere else on Lemmy saying they heard someone refer to asking chatgpt something as "asking chat." So I think it was a meta reference to calling AI chat. And yes, since chatgpt was released in 2022 my cutoff for searches is also 2021, so it makes perfect sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that does make sense, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (2 children) "Chat" is ChatGPT and "pop off" is popular or gaining traction. I promise I'm old, I'm just going back to university and am surrounded by children lol Doing HW is why my response lagged, my bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Thank you for explaining. Language does seem to evolve faster than i can keep up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) The kids today will ask a sort of rhetorical questions out loud and say something like, "chat, should I (under whatever nonsense here)". In this instance, they're pretending to be streamers and ask the viewers. But if someone says, "I'll just ask chat to write my paper (or whathaveyou)." That's ChatGPT. The difference is contextual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's good to know. Thank you. Yeah context can change a lot, but not even knowing the context can make it rather hard to guess any meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Normally I'd say you can ignore it because it'll change soon enough, but I think "ask chat" will become synonymous with "ask ai" similar to how "Google it" is now considered personal research/look it up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago When young people say "chat," they're not talking about ChatGPT. Generally speaking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Thank you for explaining. Language does seem to evolve faster than i can keep up with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) The kids today will ask a sort of rhetorical questions out loud and say something like, "chat, should I (under whatever nonsense here)". In this instance, they're pretending to be streamers and ask the viewers. But if someone says, "I'll just ask chat to write my paper (or whathaveyou)." That's ChatGPT. The difference is contextual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's good to know. Thank you. Yeah context can change a lot, but not even knowing the context can make it rather hard to guess any meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Normally I'd say you can ignore it because it'll change soon enough, but I think "ask chat" will become synonymous with "ask ai" similar to how "Google it" is now considered personal research/look it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) The kids today will ask a sort of rhetorical questions out loud and say something like, "chat, should I (under whatever nonsense here)". In this instance, they're pretending to be streamers and ask the viewers. But if someone says, "I'll just ask chat to write my paper (or whathaveyou)." That's ChatGPT. The difference is contextual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's good to know. Thank you. Yeah context can change a lot, but not even knowing the context can make it rather hard to guess any meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Normally I'd say you can ignore it because it'll change soon enough, but I think "ask chat" will become synonymous with "ask ai" similar to how "Google it" is now considered personal research/look it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) That's good to know. Thank you. Yeah context can change a lot, but not even knowing the context can make it rather hard to guess any meaning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Normally I'd say you can ignore it because it'll change soon enough, but I think "ask chat" will become synonymous with "ask ai" similar to how "Google it" is now considered personal research/look it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago Normally I'd say you can ignore it because it'll change soon enough, but I think "ask chat" will become synonymous with "ask ai" similar to how "Google it" is now considered personal research/look it up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago When young people say "chat," they're not talking about ChatGPT. Generally speaking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (3 children) Well, 'chat' is Internet Chat, as it's been known for 30 years when it moved from academia to mainstream. 'Pop off' is just this year's slang for "rapidly gain popularity", and it'll be replaced by something equally ephemeral (like with 'fetch', 'fleek', some level of 'rizz' or 'cap') soon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loweffortname@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago This comment is streets ahead. permalink fedilink source parent [–] justaman123@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) I thought pop-off was like 10 years old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) Maybe for certain groups of people. It's decades old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago All fads circle back permalink fedilink source parent [–] pfr@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago Can confirm. I'm 40 (oldest Millenial) and shit was poppin-off back in 2010. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Thank you, but that still doesn't really explain why 2021. Chatting services we're popular way before that. Something must have happened in the year 2021 in relation to technology so that this specific year was chosen as last decent production year for technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) This might be my "woosh" moment. But I'll bite. I think they were referring to ChatGPT being let loose on the general public. That kinda marked the start for the current AI bubble and the enshittification of every new tech product with some sort of LLM bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago Yes this permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, I'm genuinely curious why such an odd number, like 2020 would make more sense as it's the beginning of a decade. ChatGPT was released late 2022. So it cant be that one either. Maybe some other AI chat service was released around 2021? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah. Or maybe they just got the number wrong, like I did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago Fair point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I saw a comment somewhere else on Lemmy saying they heard someone refer to asking chatgpt something as "asking chat." So I think it was a meta reference to calling AI chat. And yes, since chatgpt was released in 2022 my cutoff for searches is also 2021, so it makes perfect sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that does make sense, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loweffortname@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago This comment is streets ahead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] loweffortname@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago This comment is streets ahead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 child) I thought pop-off was like 10 years old permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) Maybe for certain groups of people. It's decades old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago All fads circle back permalink fedilink source parent [–] pfr@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago Can confirm. I'm 40 (oldest Millenial) and shit was poppin-off back in 2010. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children) Maybe for certain groups of people. It's decades old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago All fads circle back permalink fedilink source parent [–] pfr@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago Can confirm. I'm 40 (oldest Millenial) and shit was poppin-off back in 2010. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pfr@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago Can confirm. I'm 40 (oldest Millenial) and shit was poppin-off back in 2010. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Thank you, but that still doesn't really explain why 2021. Chatting services we're popular way before that. Something must have happened in the year 2021 in relation to technology so that this specific year was chosen as last decent production year for technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) This might be my "woosh" moment. But I'll bite. I think they were referring to ChatGPT being let loose on the general public. That kinda marked the start for the current AI bubble and the enshittification of every new tech product with some sort of LLM bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago Yes this permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, I'm genuinely curious why such an odd number, like 2020 would make more sense as it's the beginning of a decade. ChatGPT was released late 2022. So it cant be that one either. Maybe some other AI chat service was released around 2021? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah. Or maybe they just got the number wrong, like I did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago Fair point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I saw a comment somewhere else on Lemmy saying they heard someone refer to asking chatgpt something as "asking chat." So I think it was a meta reference to calling AI chat. And yes, since chatgpt was released in 2022 my cutoff for searches is also 2021, so it makes perfect sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that does make sense, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (2 children) This might be my "woosh" moment. But I'll bite. I think they were referring to ChatGPT being let loose on the general public. That kinda marked the start for the current AI bubble and the enshittification of every new tech product with some sort of LLM bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 month ago Yes this permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, I'm genuinely curious why such an odd number, like 2020 would make more sense as it's the beginning of a decade. ChatGPT was released late 2022. So it cant be that one either. Maybe some other AI chat service was released around 2021? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah. Or maybe they just got the number wrong, like I did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago Fair point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) No, I'm genuinely curious why such an odd number, like 2020 would make more sense as it's the beginning of a decade. ChatGPT was released late 2022. So it cant be that one either. Maybe some other AI chat service was released around 2021? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah. Or maybe they just got the number wrong, like I did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago Fair point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah. Or maybe they just got the number wrong, like I did. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 point 1 month ago Fair point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) I saw a comment somewhere else on Lemmy saying they heard someone refer to asking chatgpt something as "asking chat." So I think it was a meta reference to calling AI chat. And yes, since chatgpt was released in 2022 my cutoff for searches is also 2021, so it makes perfect sense to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that does make sense, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago Yeah that does make sense, thank you. permalink fedilink source parent