▲ 113 ▼ Proton mail sponsors far right French YouTuber, censors criticism on their subreddit (lemmy.ml) submitted 1 month ago* by marcie@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 84 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (2 children) you can say this about literally every tech company these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago very true; capitalists will always capital. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (3 children) Which is why we support Open Source like Firefox, Thunderbird, GIMP, NextCloud, LibreOffice and a whole lot more. :-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Any good VPNs big dawg? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago I don't need VPN... Sorry mate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (3 children) With euro office coming up, there was some musing that libre office has Russian roots, does that change the equation any? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago From what I understood: ONLYOFFICE is a fork of Libre Office by a russian company. NextCloud was using ONLYOFFICE for its built-in cloud office suite replacement. Then they forked it with others to have greater control on the software with no communication whatsever to the company developing ONLYOFFICE without respecting their questionnable trademark restriction within ONLYOFFICE licence which I am still unsure if it was compatible with GPL licence Libre Office is using. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) It's Euro-Office that might have Russians roots. Do get the facts straight. ;-) LibreOffice is the only real free and open, open source office suite out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Man it took me 3 days of re-reading to only now realize that there is OPENoffice that is forked to libre office, and ONLYoffice, which has strong russian origins. Til that only-office is even a thing. Far too easy to misread when I wasn't expecting only as a prefix to office. I'm sure I'm not the only one that got tripped up. Also PSA: euro office isn't a standalone offline office suite - it's web based and doesn't run standalone. Needs next cloud and quite a bit of setup to allow for that M$365 'experience'. permalink fedilink source parent [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Isn't libre also a fork of open? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Yes... Because OpenOffice was truly free at the beginning, but then they wanted to make it more and more closed, and then people who didn't share that mission went their separate way. Lucky for those os us, who like things to be as open as possible... And free... And I still pay for it - but I'm free to do that. I had a rough couple of years with low income and many expenses, but even then I could use it for free. That's true freedom to me. I don't want things to be free, like in the sense that I don't want to pay. I do pay, I like to support things that makes sense to me, and with the amount that I can actually afford. permalink fedilink source parent [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago afaik euro-office is a fork of libreoffice that is redesigned to look more like onlyoffice that or it's a fork from onlyoffice permalink fedilink source parent [–] cheeki@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) I'd cut nextcloud from that list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago Why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago As long as it is open source, then there's not much to worry about. ;-) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago very true; capitalists will always capital. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (3 children) Which is why we support Open Source like Firefox, Thunderbird, GIMP, NextCloud, LibreOffice and a whole lot more. :-) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Any good VPNs big dawg? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago I don't need VPN... Sorry mate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (3 children) With euro office coming up, there was some musing that libre office has Russian roots, does that change the equation any? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago From what I understood: ONLYOFFICE is a fork of Libre Office by a russian company. NextCloud was using ONLYOFFICE for its built-in cloud office suite replacement. Then they forked it with others to have greater control on the software with no communication whatsever to the company developing ONLYOFFICE without respecting their questionnable trademark restriction within ONLYOFFICE licence which I am still unsure if it was compatible with GPL licence Libre Office is using. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) It's Euro-Office that might have Russians roots. Do get the facts straight. ;-) LibreOffice is the only real free and open, open source office suite out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Man it took me 3 days of re-reading to only now realize that there is OPENoffice that is forked to libre office, and ONLYoffice, which has strong russian origins. Til that only-office is even a thing. Far too easy to misread when I wasn't expecting only as a prefix to office. I'm sure I'm not the only one that got tripped up. Also PSA: euro office isn't a standalone offline office suite - it's web based and doesn't run standalone. Needs next cloud and quite a bit of setup to allow for that M$365 'experience'. permalink fedilink source parent [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Isn't libre also a fork of open? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Yes... Because OpenOffice was truly free at the beginning, but then they wanted to make it more and more closed, and then people who didn't share that mission went their separate way. Lucky for those os us, who like things to be as open as possible... And free... And I still pay for it - but I'm free to do that. I had a rough couple of years with low income and many expenses, but even then I could use it for free. That's true freedom to me. I don't want things to be free, like in the sense that I don't want to pay. I do pay, I like to support things that makes sense to me, and with the amount that I can actually afford. permalink fedilink source parent [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago afaik euro-office is a fork of libreoffice that is redesigned to look more like onlyoffice that or it's a fork from onlyoffice permalink fedilink source parent [–] cheeki@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) I'd cut nextcloud from that list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago Why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago As long as it is open source, then there's not much to worry about. ;-) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Any good VPNs big dawg? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago I don't need VPN... Sorry mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago I don't need VPN... Sorry mate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (3 children) With euro office coming up, there was some musing that libre office has Russian roots, does that change the equation any? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago From what I understood: ONLYOFFICE is a fork of Libre Office by a russian company. NextCloud was using ONLYOFFICE for its built-in cloud office suite replacement. Then they forked it with others to have greater control on the software with no communication whatsever to the company developing ONLYOFFICE without respecting their questionnable trademark restriction within ONLYOFFICE licence which I am still unsure if it was compatible with GPL licence Libre Office is using. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) It's Euro-Office that might have Russians roots. Do get the facts straight. ;-) LibreOffice is the only real free and open, open source office suite out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Man it took me 3 days of re-reading to only now realize that there is OPENoffice that is forked to libre office, and ONLYoffice, which has strong russian origins. Til that only-office is even a thing. Far too easy to misread when I wasn't expecting only as a prefix to office. I'm sure I'm not the only one that got tripped up. Also PSA: euro office isn't a standalone offline office suite - it's web based and doesn't run standalone. Needs next cloud and quite a bit of setup to allow for that M$365 'experience'. permalink fedilink source parent [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Isn't libre also a fork of open? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Yes... Because OpenOffice was truly free at the beginning, but then they wanted to make it more and more closed, and then people who didn't share that mission went their separate way. Lucky for those os us, who like things to be as open as possible... And free... And I still pay for it - but I'm free to do that. I had a rough couple of years with low income and many expenses, but even then I could use it for free. That's true freedom to me. I don't want things to be free, like in the sense that I don't want to pay. I do pay, I like to support things that makes sense to me, and with the amount that I can actually afford. permalink fedilink source parent [–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago afaik euro-office is a fork of libreoffice that is redesigned to look more like onlyoffice that or it's a fork from onlyoffice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago From what I understood: ONLYOFFICE is a fork of Libre Office by a russian company. NextCloud was using ONLYOFFICE for its built-in cloud office suite replacement. Then they forked it with others to have greater control on the software with no communication whatsever to the company developing ONLYOFFICE without respecting their questionnable trademark restriction within ONLYOFFICE licence which I am still unsure if it was compatible with GPL licence Libre Office is using. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (2 children) It's Euro-Office that might have Russians roots. Do get the facts straight. ;-) LibreOffice is the only real free and open, open source office suite out there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Man it took me 3 days of re-reading to only now realize that there is OPENoffice that is forked to libre office, and ONLYoffice, which has strong russian origins. Til that only-office is even a thing. Far too easy to misread when I wasn't expecting only as a prefix to office. I'm sure I'm not the only one that got tripped up. Also PSA: euro office isn't a standalone offline office suite - it's web based and doesn't run standalone. Needs next cloud and quite a bit of setup to allow for that M$365 'experience'. permalink fedilink source parent [–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Isn't libre also a fork of open? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Yes... Because OpenOffice was truly free at the beginning, but then they wanted to make it more and more closed, and then people who didn't share that mission went their separate way. Lucky for those os us, who like things to be as open as possible... And free... And I still pay for it - but I'm free to do that. I had a rough couple of years with low income and many expenses, but even then I could use it for free. That's true freedom to me. I don't want things to be free, like in the sense that I don't want to pay. I do pay, I like to support things that makes sense to me, and with the amount that I can actually afford. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago Man it took me 3 days of re-reading to only now realize that there is OPENoffice that is forked to libre office, and ONLYoffice, which has strong russian origins. Til that only-office is even a thing. Far too easy to misread when I wasn't expecting only as a prefix to office. I'm sure I'm not the only one that got tripped up. Also PSA: euro office isn't a standalone offline office suite - it's web based and doesn't run standalone. Needs next cloud and quite a bit of setup to allow for that M$365 'experience'. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Isn't libre also a fork of open? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Yes... Because OpenOffice was truly free at the beginning, but then they wanted to make it more and more closed, and then people who didn't share that mission went their separate way. Lucky for those os us, who like things to be as open as possible... And free... And I still pay for it - but I'm free to do that. I had a rough couple of years with low income and many expenses, but even then I could use it for free. That's true freedom to me. I don't want things to be free, like in the sense that I don't want to pay. I do pay, I like to support things that makes sense to me, and with the amount that I can actually afford. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 weeks ago Yes... Because OpenOffice was truly free at the beginning, but then they wanted to make it more and more closed, and then people who didn't share that mission went their separate way. Lucky for those os us, who like things to be as open as possible... And free... And I still pay for it - but I'm free to do that. I had a rough couple of years with low income and many expenses, but even then I could use it for free. That's true freedom to me. I don't want things to be free, like in the sense that I don't want to pay. I do pay, I like to support things that makes sense to me, and with the amount that I can actually afford. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago afaik euro-office is a fork of libreoffice that is redesigned to look more like onlyoffice that or it's a fork from onlyoffice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cheeki@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (2 children) I'd cut nextcloud from that list permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago Why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago As long as it is open source, then there's not much to worry about. ;-) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago As long as it is open source, then there's not much to worry about. ;-) permalink fedilink source parent