▲ 89 ▼ Am I wrong for blocking the Cloudflare domain because I assume they are gathering as much as google? (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 3 months ago by ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/privacy@lemmy.ml 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) https://www.cloudflare.com/privacypolicy/ permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago (1 child) Privacy policies doesnt mean anything, if it's a US based company. Doesnt matter if the servers are in the EU. They steal it anyway. Look US Cloud Act. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gnugit@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Do you honestly believe the US follows the GDPR? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago They are also legally required to hand over the data. Do you honestly believe they go against the orange dictator and NSA? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) they must first comply with the Patriot Act, the FISA amendment Act, and the Cloud Act, because they are in the same jurisdiction as them... then, maybe the EU GDPR. in that order. always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago well it's standard "hierarchy of norms" theory of the law, when regulations of different nature piling up... Also Patriot, FISA-A, and Cloud acts all pretend to be justified by "national security" which times and times again has been considered in the US be a higher imperative in the hierarchy of the norms (in many cases justifying to even bypass the constitution when it comes to spying on US citizens, etc.). Whichever way you look at it: the NSA and the CIA (and countless other agencies) who have been granted unlimited, unregulated, untraceable access to all data processed by any US company are not subjected to the EU GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lukstru@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/ iirc, this was about EU servers that were not supposed to forward data to the US by contract permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago (1 child) Privacy policies doesnt mean anything, if it's a US based company. Doesnt matter if the servers are in the EU. They steal it anyway. Look US Cloud Act. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gnugit@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Do you honestly believe the US follows the GDPR? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago They are also legally required to hand over the data. Do you honestly believe they go against the orange dictator and NSA? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) they must first comply with the Patriot Act, the FISA amendment Act, and the Cloud Act, because they are in the same jurisdiction as them... then, maybe the EU GDPR. in that order. always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago well it's standard "hierarchy of norms" theory of the law, when regulations of different nature piling up... Also Patriot, FISA-A, and Cloud acts all pretend to be justified by "national security" which times and times again has been considered in the US be a higher imperative in the hierarchy of the norms (in many cases justifying to even bypass the constitution when it comes to spying on US citizens, etc.). Whichever way you look at it: the NSA and the CIA (and countless other agencies) who have been granted unlimited, unregulated, untraceable access to all data processed by any US company are not subjected to the EU GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lukstru@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/ iirc, this was about EU servers that were not supposed to forward data to the US by contract permalink fedilink source parent
[+] voxel@feddit.uk -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] gnugit@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Do you honestly believe the US follows the GDPR? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago They are also legally required to hand over the data. Do you honestly believe they go against the orange dictator and NSA? permalink fedilink source parent [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) they must first comply with the Patriot Act, the FISA amendment Act, and the Cloud Act, because they are in the same jurisdiction as them... then, maybe the EU GDPR. in that order. always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago well it's standard "hierarchy of norms" theory of the law, when regulations of different nature piling up... Also Patriot, FISA-A, and Cloud acts all pretend to be justified by "national security" which times and times again has been considered in the US be a higher imperative in the hierarchy of the norms (in many cases justifying to even bypass the constitution when it comes to spying on US citizens, etc.). Whichever way you look at it: the NSA and the CIA (and countless other agencies) who have been granted unlimited, unregulated, untraceable access to all data processed by any US company are not subjected to the EU GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lukstru@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/ iirc, this was about EU servers that were not supposed to forward data to the US by contract permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gnugit@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (1 child) Do you honestly believe the US follows the GDPR? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago They are also legally required to hand over the data. Do you honestly believe they go against the orange dictator and NSA? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] voxel@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago They are also legally required to hand over the data. Do you honestly believe they go against the orange dictator and NSA? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago They are also legally required to hand over the data. Do you honestly believe they go against the orange dictator and NSA? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (1 child) they must first comply with the Patriot Act, the FISA amendment Act, and the Cloud Act, because they are in the same jurisdiction as them... then, maybe the EU GDPR. in that order. always. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] voxel@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago well it's standard "hierarchy of norms" theory of the law, when regulations of different nature piling up... Also Patriot, FISA-A, and Cloud acts all pretend to be justified by "national security" which times and times again has been considered in the US be a higher imperative in the hierarchy of the norms (in many cases justifying to even bypass the constitution when it comes to spying on US citizens, etc.). Whichever way you look at it: the NSA and the CIA (and countless other agencies) who have been granted unlimited, unregulated, untraceable access to all data processed by any US company are not subjected to the EU GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lukstru@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/ iirc, this was about EU servers that were not supposed to forward data to the US by contract permalink fedilink source parent
[+] voxel@feddit.uk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago well it's standard "hierarchy of norms" theory of the law, when regulations of different nature piling up... Also Patriot, FISA-A, and Cloud acts all pretend to be justified by "national security" which times and times again has been considered in the US be a higher imperative in the hierarchy of the norms (in many cases justifying to even bypass the constitution when it comes to spying on US citizens, etc.). Whichever way you look at it: the NSA and the CIA (and countless other agencies) who have been granted unlimited, unregulated, untraceable access to all data processed by any US company are not subjected to the EU GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lukstru@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/ iirc, this was about EU servers that were not supposed to forward data to the US by contract permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago well it's standard "hierarchy of norms" theory of the law, when regulations of different nature piling up... Also Patriot, FISA-A, and Cloud acts all pretend to be justified by "national security" which times and times again has been considered in the US be a higher imperative in the hierarchy of the norms (in many cases justifying to even bypass the constitution when it comes to spying on US citizens, etc.). Whichever way you look at it: the NSA and the CIA (and countless other agencies) who have been granted unlimited, unregulated, untraceable access to all data processed by any US company are not subjected to the EU GDPR. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lukstru@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/ iirc, this was about EU servers that were not supposed to forward data to the US by contract permalink fedilink source parent