▲ 1216 ▼ Dad with Stage 4 cancer dies after insurance company said tumor-shrinking treatment was ‘not medically necessary’ (nypost.com) submitted 3 months ago by slaacaa@lemmy.world to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 208 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 120 points 3 months ago (2 children) because apparently, the alternative is communism, and it will have death panels that will decide if you get to live in order to save costs... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 months ago (2 children) Insurance companies are deathpanels though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 months ago (1 child) I believe that was their point... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 11 points 3 months ago* Well maybe they are private enterprise death panels, but they trust them more than theoretical government death panels because the private sector is more efficient than government at cutting costs, such as, um, actually paying for needed care and oh shit they did not think that through. edit: I meant to reply that to the comment above, but oh well. It's here now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (1 child) that was my point. they prefer real material death panels, than the alternative, because it might have theoretical death panels. that no country with public healthcare has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago (1 child) The danger of commenting first thing after waking up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) same, haven't got my coffee yet, how do you take yours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) here you go. ☕ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] bstix@feddit.dk 20 points 3 months ago (2 children) Insurance is worse than communism in this case. Tax paid universal healthcare and healthcare insurance both work on the idea of socializing the cost. The difference is that insurance companies also need to make a profit too feed the owners. Since they don't actually produce anything that can make a profit, the only place they can grab the "profit" is by denying cover. American healthcare insurance is exactly the same picture that is shown when people try to explain why communism doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spitfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago Nearly everything is better than the US&A’s take on capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago Tax paid universal healthcare and healthcare insurance both work on the idea of socializing the cost. I think if we used their language it might help: we should outsource healthcare costs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 49 points 3 months ago (2 children) Insurance companies are deathpanels though... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 months ago (1 child) I believe that was their point... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 11 points 3 months ago* Well maybe they are private enterprise death panels, but they trust them more than theoretical government death panels because the private sector is more efficient than government at cutting costs, such as, um, actually paying for needed care and oh shit they did not think that through. edit: I meant to reply that to the comment above, but oh well. It's here now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (1 child) that was my point. they prefer real material death panels, than the alternative, because it might have theoretical death panels. that no country with public healthcare has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago (1 child) The danger of commenting first thing after waking up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) same, haven't got my coffee yet, how do you take yours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) here you go. ☕ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 3 months ago (1 child) I believe that was their point... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 11 points 3 months ago* Well maybe they are private enterprise death panels, but they trust them more than theoretical government death panels because the private sector is more efficient than government at cutting costs, such as, um, actually paying for needed care and oh shit they did not think that through. edit: I meant to reply that to the comment above, but oh well. It's here now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EpeeGnome@feddit.online 11 points 3 months ago* Well maybe they are private enterprise death panels, but they trust them more than theoretical government death panels because the private sector is more efficient than government at cutting costs, such as, um, actually paying for needed care and oh shit they did not think that through. edit: I meant to reply that to the comment above, but oh well. It's here now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (1 child) that was my point. they prefer real material death panels, than the alternative, because it might have theoretical death panels. that no country with public healthcare has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago (1 child) The danger of commenting first thing after waking up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) same, haven't got my coffee yet, how do you take yours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) here you go. ☕ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago (1 child) The danger of commenting first thing after waking up! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) same, haven't got my coffee yet, how do you take yours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) here you go. ☕ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) same, haven't got my coffee yet, how do you take yours? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) here you go. ☕ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) here you go. ☕ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 child) here you go. ☕ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bstix@feddit.dk 20 points 3 months ago (2 children) Insurance is worse than communism in this case. Tax paid universal healthcare and healthcare insurance both work on the idea of socializing the cost. The difference is that insurance companies also need to make a profit too feed the owners. Since they don't actually produce anything that can make a profit, the only place they can grab the "profit" is by denying cover. American healthcare insurance is exactly the same picture that is shown when people try to explain why communism doesn't work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] spitfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago Nearly everything is better than the US&A’s take on capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago Tax paid universal healthcare and healthcare insurance both work on the idea of socializing the cost. I think if we used their language it might help: we should outsource healthcare costs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago Nearly everything is better than the US&A’s take on capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago Tax paid universal healthcare and healthcare insurance both work on the idea of socializing the cost. I think if we used their language it might help: we should outsource healthcare costs. permalink fedilink source parent