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White House: Reopening Strait of Hormuz Not Vital to Ending Iran War (time.com)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/world@lemmy.world
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Let's just declare victory after losing!

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[–] 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

America is good at not admitting they lost a war. Just ask any war since ww2.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Ending any war isn't their goal. We are the single largest arms manufacturer and seller on the planet. Our economy is war. This whole machine supports our pillaging and our governments priority is spending tax dollars for weapons from their clubs companies, then they turn around to the construction side of the club and give their friends contracts to repair everything they destroyed. Wait 20 years and rinse and repeat.

    Mass murder for profit is our country's legacy.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This is a bit different. There's no profit to be had getting high on your own supply.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In WW2 they fought against 20% of a Wehrmacht that was already functionally broken by the Soviet Union.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Well, let's not forget that the US was also fighting against Japan for much of that time. And the invasion of occupied France and of Italy was not on easy mode either.

    And the collapse of the Wehrmacht on the eastern front had as much to do with the Russian winter, failing supply chains due to non-USSR allied bombing of German factories and railways, and Hitler's interference in military decisions as it did the accomplishments of the glorious Red Army, which for the first year or more of the invasion, was under-equipped and incompetently led. They learned and adapted, but Stalin's misguided micromanagement and paranoia cost the USSR hundreds of thousands of soldiers' and civilian lives.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, I'm not trying to glorify the Soviet Union.
    And yes, the USA did do a large part in bringing down Germany.
    But the narrative that America beat Germany and saved the world is incorrect.
    Their factory workers had a bigger part in determining the outcome than their soldiers.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Nah? Battle of Stalingrad wasn't even until 1943, after Operation Torch (N. Africa) had started.

    The UK did more with less. Escorting supply convoys to Russia, fighting in N. Africa and the Middle East, keeping the Wermacht pinned to defending the French coast. You could argue they contained Germany on 3 sides/fronts where Russia only had the one (which was heavily supported by the US/UK).

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