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‘Project Hail Mary’ Becomes Amazon MGM Studios’ Highest-Grossing Film Worldwide With $300 Million Overtaking ‘Creed III’ (deadline.com)
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[–] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I come back from the movie. I loved it, my wife less so. I guess I hyped it up too much, and she is expecting a masterpiece, not entertainments.

We both agree the scene, narrative, and music are great, I like the story and charactor arc, but she feels the plot holes are too distracting in the story to enjoy it.

But we both agree there are too many plot holes,

complain 2and the whole "lone wolf genius" plot line is very annoying and cliche: science progresses mostly through collaboration and sharing. There are lone geniuses, but the work of most scientists, including many considered geniuses, are not irreplaceable. It is very rare for a genius to out perform a coordinated group of scientists when they are working towards the same goal. Good thing they didn't spend too much time on it.

I guess the biggest plot hole is

!!!! SPOILERS !!!!!

potential plot holeWhy didn't they use the super advanced rocky ship to collect the predator, when it can instantly create environment that are livable for humans; instead, they used the super fragile tiny human ship?

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Perhaps that ship was incapable of approaching the atmosphere for reasons that weren't discussed.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Yeah, I feel it is the only reason, but it feels very werid that an alien in a much more advanced ship seeking to save their entire planet don't have ability to a approach planet at their destination.

    Or rocky is a way worse pilot than Grace.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago

    They talked about it in the book. The hail Mary has way better tech/science on it than the blip A. Basically the blip A is iridians first spaceship. It's bare bones and the shit for even collecting astrophage doesn't work. Plus rocky was literally stuck in space wondering around by himself for 40+ years and still couldn't get the stuff to work.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Because Rocky's ship has no science equipment, no radiation shielding, and is under 29 atmospheres of ammonia. The technical challenges to allow Grace to roam in the Blip A are far greater than those allowing Rocky to roam the Mary. Granted, the film shows Grace going into the Blip A, but this didn't happen in the book.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    no radiation shielding

    The sampling would have killed both of them.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    The journey would have put them both at risk. That's why Rocky was the sole survivor of his crew, they all died from cosmic radiation exposure during the trip from Erid, while he was protected because he bunked near the fuel tanks. The trip across the Tau solar system took weeks.
    During sampling, Grace wore an EVA suit, which provides radiation protection. Also his dose would have been low, as he was only outside for a matter of minutes.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    As to your second issue: one ship had a science person and a bunch of equipment that they’d need built to operate in that science person’s environment.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    But the collection process doesn't need a science person and is extremely dangerous. One ship has a fabrication person (basically can build and repair structures instantly) with robot arm and prob. It doesn't seem like a science person's job to "space walk" (atmosphere walk, really) on a completely unknown planet's atmosphere.

    After the collection, they can bring the sample in the lab to test and breed, which is exactly what they did.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    There are a lot more details in the book

    But it basically boils down to, that the hail Mary is more capable

    Plus, navigating would be a two person job due to the complexity, and grace can't get on board of the blip a (the scene with him in the xenonite suit is movie-only)

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    From what other have pointed out, the blip is much more primitive than hail mary, and Eridian is not really a space-dwelling spices. I guess this is hinted at in the movie: the way they communicate via throwing bottles, they don't understand Grace phoning home, and they don't know about space radiation.

    But I feel these are not properly conveyed in the movie: rocky can instantly build tunnel and adjust to environment to make it livable for human (without encountering Grace or visited his ship), and later Grace went on rocky's ship, seems to all suggest Eridian has much more advanced technology than human.

    Just a sentence in Graces log probably can set a better tune that human has more advanced tech, but Eridian are better at manufacturing.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Part of the book is that everything is slower, it took them weeks to get to the planet from where they met, and Rocky had already spent time retro fitting graces ship to let him live there. (they did not go to the planet with the intention of sampling it, they were just going to sample the line and orbit the planet as an easy way to get close to the line)

    It's been a long time since I read the book, but I think they considered the danger relatively low for the ship with their plan to stay high up and were more focused on "maybe we'll lose the bucket risks" and didn't want to go back to rocky ship until they were done because travel time and stuff.

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