▲ 1140 ▼ It's all SO simple! (sh.itjust.works) submitted 5 months ago by Thassodar@sh.itjust.works to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 197 comments fedilink hide all child comments The struggle is worse the older you get.
[–] glibg10b@lemmy.zip 39 points 5 months ago (6 children) This but unironically. It's a way more efficient way to lose weight than exercise. And it doesn't come with the Ozempic side effects permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 months ago I lost 35kg within 8 months by going hardcore on controlling my diet. I did have to eat more once I started exercising, which I needed to because all the muscle was melting away right along the fat. It definitely works, but I did "fall off the wagon" once I stopped counting the calories. Now I'm trying to find that long term balance of sport and diet I can maintain in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It can definitely have side effects. Psychological (eating disorders, debilitating feeling of hunger) and physical (unbalanced diet, or fatigue because the body gets in the "oh fuck must conserve energy" mode). There is no one size fits all solution. A random 50 year old IT worker with a sedentary lifestyle and a Big Mac diet does not need the same help as a physically active 25 year old with severe hormonal imbalances. Using Ozempic is bad in the former case, but so is shaming the latter person for relying on it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) Intermittent fasting/OMAD and light exercise (walking, a bit of cycling) is in my opinion a way easier to drop massive amounts of weight in a short time. Light exercise keeps your body healthy while operating at a caloric defecit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) Just don't get OMAD mixed up with GOMAD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thassodar@sh.itjust.works [S] 4 points 5 months ago That sounds like a bad time all around lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Emi@ani.social 3 points 5 months ago Might be effective weight loss if you are lactose intolerant. XD permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) True, it doesn’t have the side effect of continuous hunger, feeling deprived, constant cravings, until you explode with binge eating. That would never happen permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ulterno@programming.dev -2 points 5 months ago I've actually tried fasting for fun and it doesn't really cause binge eating, as long as you do it right. But then again, my regular diet does not contain stuff from industrial fast food chains. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) Yeah moving doesn't seem to lose weight (unless you're very overweight). It's very good for you, but muscle isn't lighter than fat. At some point I went from not running to running half marathons and I went from like 86 to 82 kg average, but that only really happened after I also changed my diet. Currently I stopped running temporarily because of some health reasons and I haven't really gained much weight either, I just feel weaker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago It's a lot easier to remove 200 calories from your diet than burning 200 calories more. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago The big two things exercise does for weight loss is it expends calories to build new muscles, and then those muscles increase your base calorie burn because they're body mass. Weight loss without exercise can consume muscle as well as fat as the body treats excess muscles as a calorie store. At the end of the day, for most people in most circumstances, losing weight as a goal really means losing fat. If someone's 110 kg and trying to lose weight, many wouldn't mind being 110 kg with a somewhat thin waist and just being ripped (ok, a lot of women would hate looking like that, but actually doing that is an incredible feat) permalink fedilink source parent [–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I completely agree. What's sad is people will torture themselves if they're overweight by working out, and then reward themselves with food afterwards. The worst advice we gave people is telling them they shouldn't skip meals if they're trying to lose weight. Americans/Westerners really don't care about finding solutions; only looking like they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago The vast majority of obese people are not willing to admit they caused their obesity, because it's a human trait not to admit your faults. Humans would much rather paint themselves as the victim because that's mentally much easier. "I'm obese because of PCOS/thyroid/magic/metabolism" or "obesity isn't unhealthy, everyone should be like me". The alternative is "I caused this, I'm maintaining this, and thus I can stop maintaining this". Once I made the realisation that I was working hard to be obese every day, it was super fucking easy to lose weight. But to find the solution, you need to identify the problem first, and if that problem is you, it's going to be an uncomfortable problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 months ago I lost 35kg within 8 months by going hardcore on controlling my diet. I did have to eat more once I started exercising, which I needed to because all the muscle was melting away right along the fat. It definitely works, but I did "fall off the wagon" once I stopped counting the calories. Now I'm trying to find that long term balance of sport and diet I can maintain in the long run. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) It can definitely have side effects. Psychological (eating disorders, debilitating feeling of hunger) and physical (unbalanced diet, or fatigue because the body gets in the "oh fuck must conserve energy" mode). There is no one size fits all solution. A random 50 year old IT worker with a sedentary lifestyle and a Big Mac diet does not need the same help as a physically active 25 year old with severe hormonal imbalances. Using Ozempic is bad in the former case, but so is shaming the latter person for relying on it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) Intermittent fasting/OMAD and light exercise (walking, a bit of cycling) is in my opinion a way easier to drop massive amounts of weight in a short time. Light exercise keeps your body healthy while operating at a caloric defecit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mech@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) Just don't get OMAD mixed up with GOMAD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thassodar@sh.itjust.works [S] 4 points 5 months ago That sounds like a bad time all around lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Emi@ani.social 3 points 5 months ago Might be effective weight loss if you are lactose intolerant. XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mech@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago (2 children) Just don't get OMAD mixed up with GOMAD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thassodar@sh.itjust.works [S] 4 points 5 months ago That sounds like a bad time all around lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Emi@ani.social 3 points 5 months ago Might be effective weight loss if you are lactose intolerant. XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thassodar@sh.itjust.works [S] 4 points 5 months ago That sounds like a bad time all around lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Emi@ani.social 3 points 5 months ago Might be effective weight loss if you are lactose intolerant. XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) True, it doesn’t have the side effect of continuous hunger, feeling deprived, constant cravings, until you explode with binge eating. That would never happen permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ulterno@programming.dev -2 points 5 months ago I've actually tried fasting for fun and it doesn't really cause binge eating, as long as you do it right. But then again, my regular diet does not contain stuff from industrial fast food chains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ulterno@programming.dev -2 points 5 months ago I've actually tried fasting for fun and it doesn't really cause binge eating, as long as you do it right. But then again, my regular diet does not contain stuff from industrial fast food chains. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 point 5 months ago (2 children) Yeah moving doesn't seem to lose weight (unless you're very overweight). It's very good for you, but muscle isn't lighter than fat. At some point I went from not running to running half marathons and I went from like 86 to 82 kg average, but that only really happened after I also changed my diet. Currently I stopped running temporarily because of some health reasons and I haven't really gained much weight either, I just feel weaker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago It's a lot easier to remove 200 calories from your diet than burning 200 calories more. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago The big two things exercise does for weight loss is it expends calories to build new muscles, and then those muscles increase your base calorie burn because they're body mass. Weight loss without exercise can consume muscle as well as fat as the body treats excess muscles as a calorie store. At the end of the day, for most people in most circumstances, losing weight as a goal really means losing fat. If someone's 110 kg and trying to lose weight, many wouldn't mind being 110 kg with a somewhat thin waist and just being ripped (ok, a lot of women would hate looking like that, but actually doing that is an incredible feat) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago It's a lot easier to remove 200 calories from your diet than burning 200 calories more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago The big two things exercise does for weight loss is it expends calories to build new muscles, and then those muscles increase your base calorie burn because they're body mass. Weight loss without exercise can consume muscle as well as fat as the body treats excess muscles as a calorie store. At the end of the day, for most people in most circumstances, losing weight as a goal really means losing fat. If someone's 110 kg and trying to lose weight, many wouldn't mind being 110 kg with a somewhat thin waist and just being ripped (ok, a lot of women would hate looking like that, but actually doing that is an incredible feat) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I completely agree. What's sad is people will torture themselves if they're overweight by working out, and then reward themselves with food afterwards. The worst advice we gave people is telling them they shouldn't skip meals if they're trying to lose weight. Americans/Westerners really don't care about finding solutions; only looking like they do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago The vast majority of obese people are not willing to admit they caused their obesity, because it's a human trait not to admit your faults. Humans would much rather paint themselves as the victim because that's mentally much easier. "I'm obese because of PCOS/thyroid/magic/metabolism" or "obesity isn't unhealthy, everyone should be like me". The alternative is "I caused this, I'm maintaining this, and thus I can stop maintaining this". Once I made the realisation that I was working hard to be obese every day, it was super fucking easy to lose weight. But to find the solution, you need to identify the problem first, and if that problem is you, it's going to be an uncomfortable problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago The vast majority of obese people are not willing to admit they caused their obesity, because it's a human trait not to admit your faults. Humans would much rather paint themselves as the victim because that's mentally much easier. "I'm obese because of PCOS/thyroid/magic/metabolism" or "obesity isn't unhealthy, everyone should be like me". The alternative is "I caused this, I'm maintaining this, and thus I can stop maintaining this". Once I made the realisation that I was working hard to be obese every day, it was super fucking easy to lose weight. But to find the solution, you need to identify the problem first, and if that problem is you, it's going to be an uncomfortable problem. permalink fedilink source parent
