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Wow wow wow... European Gas prices just surged 50% after Qatar said LNG infrastructure is under threat (feddit.uk)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by to c/europe@feddit.org
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QatarEnergy, the world's largest producer of natural gas, just got bombed.

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[–] 173 points 5 months ago* (23 children)

It seems to me that every major conflict (Russia, Middle East) spikes oil prices, relatively unpredictably (if you can call this unpredictable).

Maybe the world should look for alternative sources of energy, which are abundant, cheap, and can be deployed non centrally?

No. No that’s insane.

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    These prices are literally controlled by price-fixing cartels.

    But Europe is investing hundreds of billions in North Sea wind farms to generate hydrogen for heating, it was initiated by Putin's actions.

    https://www.cip.com/projects/our-projects/hydrogen-island/

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Now we just have to hope that people dont dig up this bullshit idea of using hydrogen to heat your own house.

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    There's really nothing wrong with generating hydrogen when power costs are negative.

    Except that only happens like 500 hours a year.

    And hydrogen will leak from any tank.

    And it turns metal brittle.

    And I wouldn't trust my neighbor with a propane tank, let alone hydrogen.

    And its nearly impossible to transport through existing infrastructure.

    But other than that, its great!

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    You forgot about the part where the possibility of generating hydrogen cleanly from electricity later is used as an excuse to build infrastructure and fuel-cell cars for it now, even though hydrogen now is dirty hydrogen produced by cracking fossil fuels.

    I have no confidence that the second phase of switching to electrolysis would actually happen, and that "the hydrogen economy" isn't just a greenwashing scam perpetrated by natural gas producers.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (21 children)

    I always love the stupidity of this idea: You were able to generate pure hydrogen at high costs... Now what should we do with it? Well lets just do what we did since the middle ages and burn it!

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Whatever comes next Iβ€˜m prepared to be deeply disappointed by my government and our European partners on this. β€žMake gas cheaperβ€œ is probably at the very top of every leaderβ€˜s to do list tomorrow.

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