โฒ 363 โผ Wow wow wow... European Gas prices just surged 50% after Qatar said LNG infrastructure is under threat (feddit.uk) submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by NomNom@feddit.uk to c/europe@feddit.org 122 comments fedilink hide all child comments QatarEnergy, the world's largest producer of natural gas, just got bombed.
[โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 months ago (3 children) There's really nothing wrong with generating hydrogen when power costs are negative. Except that only happens like 500 hours a year. And hydrogen will leak from any tank. And it turns metal brittle. And I wouldn't trust my neighbor with a propane tank, let alone hydrogen. And its nearly impossible to transport through existing infrastructure. But other than that, its great! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (1 child) You forgot about the part where the possibility of generating hydrogen cleanly from electricity later is used as an excuse to build infrastructure and fuel-cell cars for it now, even though hydrogen now is dirty hydrogen produced by cracking fossil fuels. I have no confidence that the second phase of switching to electrolysis would actually happen, and that "the hydrogen economy" isn't just a greenwashing scam perpetrated by natural gas producers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago What's that? I couldn't hear you over the nonstop greenwashing of gas cracking plants. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago Wow! so glad we have clean coal now! permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Hypx@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago Most of your claims are just climate change denial arguments. Many of them were directly made up by the fossil fuel industry. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (1 child) You forgot about the part where the possibility of generating hydrogen cleanly from electricity later is used as an excuse to build infrastructure and fuel-cell cars for it now, even though hydrogen now is dirty hydrogen produced by cracking fossil fuels. I have no confidence that the second phase of switching to electrolysis would actually happen, and that "the hydrogen economy" isn't just a greenwashing scam perpetrated by natural gas producers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago What's that? I couldn't hear you over the nonstop greenwashing of gas cracking plants. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago What's that? I couldn't hear you over the nonstop greenwashing of gas cracking plants. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago Wow! so glad we have clean coal now! permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Hypx@piefed.social 1 point 5 months ago Most of your claims are just climate change denial arguments. Many of them were directly made up by the fossil fuel industry. permalink fedilink source parent