▲ 899 ▼ "Being vegan is unnatural" (discuss.tchncs.de) submitted 5 months ago by nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 844 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/55430533
[–] remon@ani.social 46 points 5 months ago (13 children) Artificial insemination is a treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] _tasten_tiger@feddit.org 96 points 5 months ago (3 children) If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will with the explicit intention then yes it is a medical treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago (4 children) Ah yes so when I give my dog antibiotics for an infection against his will it's definitely not medical treatment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago If we're gonna eat it then same goes for my chickens permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] remon@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner. edit: clarification for the ultra-dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will ...and it's medically indicated permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (1 child) Not a vegan but if you think what happens to cows is a medical "treatment" then you are a dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago Exactly, this is basically finding excuses to justify these actions. A treatment treats a condition, yet what does this treat - an ego of an person apparently. permalink fedilink source parent [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago (19 children) it is not a needed treatment for the health and well being of the cow, it is a unecessary treatment forced upon the animal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments load more comments (19 replies) [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (32 children) Artificial insemination without consent is rape. Natural insemination without consent is rape. Cows cannot give consent to humans. No animal can. Hell, even if we discovered another human-like species but couldn't have meaningful communication with them, it'd still be rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments load more comments (32 replies) [–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago Artificial insemination requires consent and you can't get consent from a cow... permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (8 replies)
[–] _tasten_tiger@feddit.org 96 points 5 months ago (3 children) If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will with the explicit intention then yes it is a medical treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago (4 children) Ah yes so when I give my dog antibiotics for an infection against his will it's definitely not medical treatment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago If we're gonna eat it then same goes for my chickens permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] remon@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner. edit: clarification for the ultra-dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will ...and it's medically indicated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago (4 children) Ah yes so when I give my dog antibiotics for an infection against his will it's definitely not medical treatment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago If we're gonna eat it then same goes for my chickens permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago If we're gonna eat it then same goes for my chickens permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago If we're gonna eat it then same goes for my chickens permalink fedilink source parent
[–] remon@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner. edit: clarification for the ultra-dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will ...and it's medically indicated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (1 child) Not a vegan but if you think what happens to cows is a medical "treatment" then you are a dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago Exactly, this is basically finding excuses to justify these actions. A treatment treats a condition, yet what does this treat - an ego of an person apparently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago Exactly, this is basically finding excuses to justify these actions. A treatment treats a condition, yet what does this treat - an ego of an person apparently. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago (19 children) it is not a needed treatment for the health and well being of the cow, it is a unecessary treatment forced upon the animal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments load more comments (19 replies)
[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (32 children) Artificial insemination without consent is rape. Natural insemination without consent is rape. Cows cannot give consent to humans. No animal can. Hell, even if we discovered another human-like species but couldn't have meaningful communication with them, it'd still be rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments load more comments (32 replies)
[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago Artificial insemination requires consent and you can't get consent from a cow... permalink fedilink source parent
