▲ 899 ▼ "Being vegan is unnatural" (discuss.tchncs.de) submitted 5 months ago by nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 844 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/55430533
[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de [S] 76 points 5 months ago (51 children) A gynaecologist "treats" the patient, benefitting the patient. Forcibly impregnating someone is also called rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 53 child comments replies: [–] remon@ani.social 46 points 5 months ago (13 children) Artificial insemination is a treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] _tasten_tiger@feddit.org 96 points 5 months ago (3 children) If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will with the explicit intention then yes it is a medical treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago (4 children) Ah yes so when I give my dog antibiotics for an infection against his will it's definitely not medical treatment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] remon@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner. edit: clarification for the ultra-dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will ...and it's medically indicated permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (1 child) Not a vegan but if you think what happens to cows is a medical "treatment" then you are a dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago (19 children) it is not a needed treatment for the health and well being of the cow, it is a unecessary treatment forced upon the animal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments load more comments (19 replies) [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (32 children) Artificial insemination without consent is rape. Natural insemination without consent is rape. Cows cannot give consent to humans. No animal can. Hell, even if we discovered another human-like species but couldn't have meaningful communication with them, it'd still be rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments load more comments (32 replies) load more comments (9 replies) [–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (41 children) Forcibly impregnating someone is also called rape. someone Key word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 42 child comments replies: [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (113 children) It's not rape if it's your dog permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 114 child comments replies: [–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) I would really like to see you try to get your dog pregnant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago There's websites for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (4 children) Why do you want to watch that? A human can try to impregnate a dog, they just can't succeed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (112 replies) load more comments (40 replies) load more comments (49 replies)
[–] remon@ani.social 46 points 5 months ago (13 children) Artificial insemination is a treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] _tasten_tiger@feddit.org 96 points 5 months ago (3 children) If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will with the explicit intention then yes it is a medical treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago (4 children) Ah yes so when I give my dog antibiotics for an infection against his will it's definitely not medical treatment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] remon@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner. edit: clarification for the ultra-dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will ...and it's medically indicated permalink fedilink source parent [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (1 child) Not a vegan but if you think what happens to cows is a medical "treatment" then you are a dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago (19 children) it is not a needed treatment for the health and well being of the cow, it is a unecessary treatment forced upon the animal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments load more comments (19 replies) [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (32 children) Artificial insemination without consent is rape. Natural insemination without consent is rape. Cows cannot give consent to humans. No animal can. Hell, even if we discovered another human-like species but couldn't have meaningful communication with them, it'd still be rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments load more comments (32 replies) load more comments (9 replies)
[–] _tasten_tiger@feddit.org 96 points 5 months ago (3 children) If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will with the explicit intention then yes it is a medical treatment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago (4 children) Ah yes so when I give my dog antibiotics for an infection against his will it's definitely not medical treatment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies) [–] remon@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner. edit: clarification for the ultra-dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will ...and it's medically indicated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 28 points 5 months ago (4 children) Ah yes so when I give my dog antibiotics for an infection against his will it's definitely not medical treatment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] M137@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago* Making an animal pregnant isn't solving a medical issue. How do you not see the difference? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 months ago Personally I view it the same as giving medicine to a baby. They don't understand, sometimes you have to make decisions in their best interests. Key point: in their best interests, not for personal gain. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children) Are you planning on eating said dog? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 6 points 5 months ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (2 replies)
[–] remon@ani.social 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children) With humans yes, but in the case of non-human animals these decisions are up to the owner. edit: clarification for the ultra-dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago If the recipient asked for it and the donor is giving it out of free will ...and it's medically indicated permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (1 child) Not a vegan but if you think what happens to cows is a medical "treatment" then you are a dumbass permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago (19 children) it is not a needed treatment for the health and well being of the cow, it is a unecessary treatment forced upon the animal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments load more comments (19 replies)
[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (32 children) Artificial insemination without consent is rape. Natural insemination without consent is rape. Cows cannot give consent to humans. No animal can. Hell, even if we discovered another human-like species but couldn't have meaningful communication with them, it'd still be rape. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments load more comments (32 replies)
[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (41 children) Forcibly impregnating someone is also called rape. someone Key word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 42 child comments replies: [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (113 children) It's not rape if it's your dog permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 114 child comments replies: [–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) I would really like to see you try to get your dog pregnant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago There's websites for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (4 children) Why do you want to watch that? A human can try to impregnate a dog, they just can't succeed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (112 replies) load more comments (40 replies)
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (113 children) It's not rape if it's your dog permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 114 child comments replies: [–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) I would really like to see you try to get your dog pregnant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago There's websites for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (4 children) Why do you want to watch that? A human can try to impregnate a dog, they just can't succeed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) load more comments (112 replies)
[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 8 points 5 months ago (2 children) I would really like to see you try to get your dog pregnant. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Triumph@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago There's websites for that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (4 children) Why do you want to watch that? A human can try to impregnate a dog, they just can't succeed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago There's websites for that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (4 children) Why do you want to watch that? A human can try to impregnate a dog, they just can't succeed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
