In a press conference this week on New York City’s $12 billion budget gap, Mayor Zohran Mamdani zeroed in on the previous administration’s artificial intelligence chatbot as one of “a number of different things we’re going to pursue for savings.”

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[–] 322 points 6 months ago (19 children)

I've yet to see any negative headlines about Mamdani ever since hr won election, aside from him opposing primarying Chuck Schumer for some stupid fucking reason.

Seeing the tankies talk about him on .ml would make you think he was leading the 4the Reich. Notice how the proletariat tends to win when we don't engage in puritanical politics based off of red fascism.

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  • [–] 74 points 6 months ago (35 children)
  • [–] 155 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    They don't like electoralism, prefer to LARP revolution while doing nothing to actually lay the groundwork for one.

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  • [–] 116 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Which is sort of wild.

    Marx was very clear that communism could not be delivered by heroes on horseback. But then again, Tankies don't like Marx, they like Lenin, the man who lost an election to actual communists and then had them all killed. He seized power via coup, and then made himself a king, and wrote how kings (vanguard parties) were somehow vital to communism, and how democracy was not.

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  • [–] 60 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Tankies are chicken-hawks.

    They gladly let millions of marginalized peoples suffer and die for a pipedream that those people will fight a communist revolution... on the tankies' behalf.

    Tankies won't ever be the ones on the front line. They spam fuck comment sections and try to convince as many people as possible to act against their own self interests, to put them in a desperate enough state that the tankoes can more easily manipulate them.

    Tankies aren't communists, they're red fascists. Same abuser mentality as the fascists they so gleefully surrendered to in November 2024.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Tankies don't like anyone, they'll never be satisfied. I'm fairly certain most of them are russian trolls tasked with sowing discord and fracturing the left.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Excuse me, we're Chinese trolls, thanks very much; we are unhealthily obsessed with China because it's incredibly economically successful, it's the last hope of actual oldschool dictatorship of the worker socialism, and it's barely avoided being controlled by the market.

    It's incredibly centralised, it's authoritarian, yes, but it's also building all the solar panels and executing billionaires when they get too powerful and making the imperial nations look like chumps, so you should forgive us for our infatuation.

    My lack of action and lack of building local organisation? Guilty. I'm trying to correct this. China is not the model for the West, and even the Chinese govt says that, so as a true Chinahead I do not call for Chad Xi to come save us, that is missing the fucking point. We must grow our own socialist organisations to bypass the state, and anarchists and syndicalists might be the best idea for the West, with our individualism and love of freedom.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    Historically, a socialist holding an elected executive office of a capitalist government is a precarious position fraught with contradictions. You can only meaningfully govern by making massive concessions to the ruling class and betraying some supporters. Communists will stake out the "he will betray you" position.

    FWIW the Mamdani administration is very aware of this contradiction and deliberately made promises that he can do by decree, such as the rent freeze. But there's also been some rather heinous concessions, like keeping on a bunch of Zionists in the admin, and also keeping on the NYPD commissioner Jessica Tisch.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I'd say they're skeptical that Mamdani will keep to his promises or that electing him isn't enough. But dislike? I bet every one would've voted for him.

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  • [–] 60 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I've seen one today: "Mamdani admits massive NYC deficit! Proof socialism doesn't work!". Dude, he wasn't mayor a month ago, pretty sure socialism isn't the problem here...

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Is that a real headline? If so, that's extremely dishonest journalism...

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Not the first time I read that kind of BS. In Cadiz (Spain), a left wing major said 1 month after being appointed that the previous right wing major left nothing but spider webs in the accounts. The right wing tried to push that as "only a month and he has broken the city".

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  • [–] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

    Yeah, I’m also liking Mamdani. However, I may be traumatized because I don’t completely trust the situation. What did Mamdani tell Trump to make Trump support him so quickly? Trump did a 180 over night, and I want to know how Mamdani did that…

    Edit: I get that Trump is impressionable, fickle, and a boy of truly weak resolve. Yet, I still want to know what Mamdani did… not what we took advantage of. What was said?

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    I genuinely think its because Trump, and all of his supporters, are colossal pussies when actually challenged and defeated by someone willing to fight them.

    If Mamdani made any concession, you'd never hear Trump and his cult not talking about it.

    Instead Trump publicly sucked Mamdani's cock and MAGA is pretending it never happened.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    Expanding on what others have answered, Trump is extremely suggestible due to dementia. He literally just agrees with whoever told him something last because he can't think on his own anymore.

    That's why it's even more vital to get rid of fascist advisors like Steven Miller than it is to get rid of Trump himself.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    trump will say anything. he doesn't support mamdani, at least not in action. but trump wants to be popular and for people to like him, so he will attach himself to anything successful. he loved the new england patriots until the kansas city chiefs became the dynasty to beat. suddenly he was talking about patrick mahomes constantly.

    the criticism for that meeting should purely go on mamdani allowing his brand to be attached to a fascist. but that gets into that electoralism will never save us because politicians who play political games to curry favor are inherently compromised. however, the value of electoralism is that it can help us put people who will allow us to organize on the margins in office as we grow our movement

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  • [–] 15 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    I just headed over to .ml and did a local search for "mamdani"

    I see a bunch of the more conservatives Democrats and their supporters complaining about him and conservatives of all stripes are really hoping he'll fail.

    I've been called a tankie several times and I rather like Mamdani. I see him, AOC, and Sanders as the best hope for the future of the US.

    Where are these tankies that hate Mamdani so much? What do they hate him for?

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (13 children)

    Authoritarian-Communist.

    Named after the mostly Marxist-Leninist leftists who supported the Soviets brutality in the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, when they sent into tanks to kill the student democratic uprising.

    Used by non-auth leftists for decades, past few years some centrists and rightists have started using it for anything left that they don't like as calling everyone communists wasn't working any more. These days it generally means anyone who supports China, Russia, blames Ukraine, etc.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    They don't.

    There's two main criticisms of Zohran that come from the left.

    One is that while good, his victory is going to be limited because the mayor has little power to enact systematic change. The keeping of Tisch (likely to avoid a war with Hochul he can't win) is a point for this

    The second is that it reinforces the Democratic party which actively opposes socialism, by giving it a face of that. And that in that way it also serves to dilute actual revolutionary energy, etc.

    You don't have to agree with those arguments - I don't fully. But those are them. But considering the person here is hitting a shitlib trifecta - screaming about tankies and horseshoe theory, conspiracy theories about Russian bots, and claiming "nuance" when caught in obvious contradictions - theyre not going to make an actual argument. Just claim ownership of the left for the center, again.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    I've yet to see any negative headlines about Mamdani ever since hr won election

    Seeing the tankies talk about him on .ml would make you think he was leading the 4the Reich.

    Well yeah, it depends exactly what kind of social bubble you are in. If you are in a right wing bubble, you would be led to believe that Mamdani is a woke Muslim terrorist commie.

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