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Mamdani to kill the NYC AI chatbot caught telling businesses to break the law— New York mayor says terminating the ‘unusable’ bot will help close a budget gap (themarkup.org)
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In a press conference this week on New York City’s $12 billion budget gap, Mayor Zohran Mamdani zeroed in on the previous administration’s artificial intelligence chatbot as one of “a number of different things we’re going to pursue for savings.”

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[–] 15 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I just headed over to .ml and did a local search for "mamdani"

I see a bunch of the more conservatives Democrats and their supporters complaining about him and conservatives of all stripes are really hoping he'll fail.

I've been called a tankie several times and I rather like Mamdani. I see him, AOC, and Sanders as the best hope for the future of the US.

Where are these tankies that hate Mamdani so much? What do they hate him for?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What's a "tankie"?

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Authoritarian-Communist.

    Named after the mostly Marxist-Leninist leftists who supported the Soviets brutality in the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, when they sent into tanks to kill the student democratic uprising.

    Used by non-auth leftists for decades, past few years some centrists and rightists have started using it for anything left that they don't like as calling everyone communists wasn't working any more. These days it generally means anyone who supports China, Russia, blames Ukraine, etc.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    The irony of the use in respect to Ukraine is that they're calling anyone not wanting to send tanks a tankie.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That's not ironic, because they're not calling for the tanks to crush innocent people but to stop imperialist invaders.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    As long as someone else gets drafted to die in the trenches, right?

    You're either disingenuous or beyond naive about ethnic and nationalistic conflict.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    How about Russia doesn't invade Ukraine and no one has to get fucking drafted.

    Tankies love imperialism, it's sickening how willing you are to throw innocent lives away.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I'm not a tankie, my little chickenhawk. Just an actual communist who understands "no war but class war". But I guess cheering on more troops into the grinder seems fine to you from far away.

    Živio Tito, smrt fašizmu, sloboda narodu, i jebem ti majku.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    Good than you understand lending critical support to the people of Ukraine in their valiant struggle against Russian imperialism.

    It’s laughable how some people say Ukraine should not be defended, but never say Russia should stop invading.

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  • [–] -3 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    You're not giving critical support to the people. You're giving it to the government.

    You want to go support that war, they're looking for volunteers, my little chickenhawk. Why don't you go relieve a conscript, since you think the struggle is so important?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Such a tankie.

    Tell me genius, what would happen to the people if they do not resist Russia? A country who is literally engaged in genocide against them.

    You do not give a shit about the people of Ukraine, you are a reactionary chud who would see them die rather than support them fighting because America bad.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    So, you're not heading out the help them then, my little chickenhawk? You claiming it's genocide makes your cowardice worse, not better.

    Easy enough to decide the territorial integrity of Ukraine is worth other people being conscripted to die from your couch, I guess.

    As for your name calling, it's pretty funny to call a Titoist a tankie, while you take sides in ethnic conflicts. But I'm sure the history is wasted on you.

    Because America bad

    The US is bad, my little "anarchist". Maybe you should focus more on the genocides and imperialism your taxes are paying for .

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago* (1 child)

    What are you doing to help them tankie?

    You actively harm them by saying others shouldn’t fight, and don't do a single thing to help. You are pure scum.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Awwww look, the little chickenhawk is getting mad!

    Better watch out, or he'll get a conscript to come fight me!

    Seriously, you're a piece of shit and a coward, and you know it. Go fuck yourself.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    You are doing worse than nothing to help them, you are actively working against their defence in the face of genocide.

    Do not think for a second that your pathetic moralism is what is annoying me, it’s your complete disregard for human life. You cowardly say “no war but class war” while civilians face death and destruction from Russian bombs. You are not on the side of the proletariat, you are advancing the interests of the bourgeoisie. You are an enemy of the innocent people who are dying because Putin wants to be a conquerer.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Where are these tankies that hate Mamdani so much? What do they hate him for?

    I have seen a few, here is one I saved from some time back.

    https://lemmy.ml/post/39249375

    A lot of things get removed from .ml so its hard to go back find things sometimes. If you are around lemmy a while you will find quite a few takes from tankies.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Idk, the post calls him infiltrator but there is -54 likes. It just looks like general .ml likes Mamdani.

    Also if they are removing the posts and comments against him, doesn't that mean he is liked over there?

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Perhaps in light of your recent post here, https://lemmy.world/post/42467256, you may stop to reconsider your comments about tankies.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Why should I? Tankies at the end of the day are counter productive to organizing and simp for authoritarians.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    🤣 zero (intentional) irony. Not you, you couldn't possibly be taken by a CIA psyop!

    Consider this: if that's true, why does the West take in Nazis and brutally crush AES? Perhaps you could actually dig into what Operation Gladio and Operation Condor did.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Not you, you couldn’t possibly be taken by a CIA psyop!

    Anyone can, we are all people.

    Still, tankies are simps for authoritarians. Further they discourage electoralism which is a big form of organizing here in the west. I've said it before, elections are not the end all be all, but it is a mistake to neglect them as they do add credibility to our movements and shifts the overton window to our favor. If anything tankies are the best form of the left that J Edgar Hoover would have wanted for us; unwilling to enage and toxic.

    Anyway, that is a summary of why I don't think tankies are worth much time. Unless you have something worth talking about Im not going to engage further.

    why does the West take in Nazis and brutally crush AES? Perhaps you could actually dig into what Operation Gladio and Operation Condor did.

    Like this, two things can be wrong at the same time. Tankies have a hard time understanding that.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Still, tankies are simps for authoritarians.

    And what are Western socialists doing to discourage or stop this authoritarianism that works, or is that reserved for states in the global South?

    Further they discourage electoralism which is a big form of organizing here in the west.

    I've never seen that. I've seen it mocked and knows from forty years' personal experience voting here in the USA, the only thing it's done is move us further right. But sure, tankies are the problem. Btw, remind me again why Dems only sued in swing states to keep Claudia De La Cruz off the ballot?

    https://boards.straightdope.com/t/examples-of-the-rotating-villain-tactic-that-the-democratic-party-uses-to-avoid-passing-bills/1027061

    https://stopmebeforeivoteagain.org/stopme/chapter02.html

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Btw, remind me again why Dems only sued in swing states to keep Claudia De La Cruz off the ballot?

    Idk im not a dem. We could have our own party in many places, and it would be helpful if tankie types stop disparaging our attempts to organize and support us where they can instead.

    That said in places where we won't have a party we should strategically vote as left as possible in primaries not just final elections.

    So yeah, tankies are part of the problem.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    They don't.

    There's two main criticisms of Zohran that come from the left.

    One is that while good, his victory is going to be limited because the mayor has little power to enact systematic change. The keeping of Tisch (likely to avoid a war with Hochul he can't win) is a point for this

    The second is that it reinforces the Democratic party which actively opposes socialism, by giving it a face of that. And that in that way it also serves to dilute actual revolutionary energy, etc.

    You don't have to agree with those arguments - I don't fully. But those are them. But considering the person here is hitting a shitlib trifecta - screaming about tankies and horseshoe theory, conspiracy theories about Russian bots, and claiming "nuance" when caught in obvious contradictions - theyre not going to make an actual argument. Just claim ownership of the left for the center, again.

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