▲ 1104 ▼ Both sides are the same (lemmy.world) submitted 8 months ago by zedgeist@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 196 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Not really, I provided some examples to some other user where they were clearly "centrists". There were people who leaned more on both sides and the advancement was achieved by someone who was more moderate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) The "left" wanted very different things in most of these cases. For instance, in post-war Italy, it wanted a revolution and to join the Warsaw pact. Plz explain to me how the examples I brought up aren't "centrist" examples but examples of left victories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) None of those advances were made with a minority of support in society. Is the argument that the populace has since become more conservative? I think what's more likely is that people you'd consider "centrist" backed those changes. You're dead set on characterizing this "centrist" entity that you have only vaguely defined to create an enemy that doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Don't be dishonest, you did more than that. The enemy you're creating is the "evil centrist". Your own example does not support that simplistic view. Achievements like Civil Rights didn't come about because just a small part of the "left" pushed for it. It came about because the majority of the left stood for it. So no, you don't get to take all the credit and YES, you're splitting the party for no discernable reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child) Not really, I provided some examples to some other user where they were clearly "centrists". There were people who leaned more on both sides and the advancement was achieved by someone who was more moderate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) The "left" wanted very different things in most of these cases. For instance, in post-war Italy, it wanted a revolution and to join the Warsaw pact. Plz explain to me how the examples I brought up aren't "centrist" examples but examples of left victories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) The "left" wanted very different things in most of these cases. For instance, in post-war Italy, it wanted a revolution and to join the Warsaw pact. Plz explain to me how the examples I brought up aren't "centrist" examples but examples of left victories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sbrodolino21@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 child) The "left" wanted very different things in most of these cases. For instance, in post-war Italy, it wanted a revolution and to join the Warsaw pact. Plz explain to me how the examples I brought up aren't "centrist" examples but examples of left victories. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child) None of those advances were made with a minority of support in society. Is the argument that the populace has since become more conservative? I think what's more likely is that people you'd consider "centrist" backed those changes. You're dead set on characterizing this "centrist" entity that you have only vaguely defined to create an enemy that doesn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Don't be dishonest, you did more than that. The enemy you're creating is the "evil centrist". Your own example does not support that simplistic view. Achievements like Civil Rights didn't come about because just a small part of the "left" pushed for it. It came about because the majority of the left stood for it. So no, you don't get to take all the credit and YES, you're splitting the party for no discernable reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Don't be dishonest, you did more than that. The enemy you're creating is the "evil centrist". Your own example does not support that simplistic view. Achievements like Civil Rights didn't come about because just a small part of the "left" pushed for it. It came about because the majority of the left stood for it. So no, you don't get to take all the credit and YES, you're splitting the party for no discernable reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) Don't be dishonest, you did more than that. The enemy you're creating is the "evil centrist". Your own example does not support that simplistic view. Achievements like Civil Rights didn't come about because just a small part of the "left" pushed for it. It came about because the majority of the left stood for it. So no, you don't get to take all the credit and YES, you're splitting the party for no discernable reason. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
