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Steam Frame (VR with Linux) (store.steampowered.com)
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[–] 58 points 8 months ago (5 children)

So, if I understood this correctly, it’s a stand alone product, it doesn’t need a PC or anything to work. Right?

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  • [–] 59 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Both works. It has a builtin ARM based PC running SteamOS but it also comes with a 6GHz dongle allowing you to stream from your PC wirelessly.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I don’t have or want a PC, but I’m willing to buy a Steam Deck if necessary. That’s why this is very interesting.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Steam deck is not powerful enough to run vr games at playable fps, I got like 20 fps in vrchat on steam deck in vr

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    VRChat is the worst example you could possibly provide for performance metrics in VR. Even people with PCs that cost $10,000 don't get 90fps in a busy room. The entire game is unoptimized user generated content...

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's a very strange opinion to read on programming.dev's Linux Lemmy community

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Long story short. I’ve worked in IT since 1998, my first computer was a PC-XT, and before that I had a thing that only Brazil had (HotBit from Sharp). I had to achieve an equilibrium between work and home. So, now I work on a MacBook Pro and I ssh to the servers I need (I’m a - mostly - Oracle DBA). At home I have an XBox Series X to play games.

    I don’t want a PC. I want things simple. I’ll probably buy the SteamDeck (or the GabeCube) and this VR.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What is a PC for you, though? Steam Frame is a full on computer running Linux, as well as Steam Deck. Nothing prevents you from running basically anything on them. But the same could be said about your MacBook that you already own.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The MacBook is not “mine”, exactly, it’s from my boss. What I’m saying is that I don’t want to go through the hassle of assembling and maintaining a PC. That’s why I bought the XBox (and because of Halo, that’s why I didn’t buy the PS).

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    So, you just want a prebuild? Just as with consoles, you still need to do maintenance. Yes, you can neglect it for a couple of years, but then you start noticing that your thermal interface is not as good anymore or that your heat exchangers are now more dust than metal. And I find full-sized computers easier to maintain, as they are so easy to disassemble, contrary to consoles.

    Also, if you want VR and have the money for it, it's probably a good idea to buy a beefier machine. VR is a bit hungry for system resources (depending on the title, of course), standalone headsets don't provide nearly as good of an experiece as a proper PCVR.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I see, by PC you mean you don't want a traditional 'tower' PC, which is perfectly reasonable. I personally consider anything within the umbrella of "PC gaming" to be a PC, including laptops (even Macbooks).

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    That was my read on it, not sure how I feel about it, I'd be happy enough with vr/ar/display glasses just hooked into the new gabe-box

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Gabecube?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    Why do you guys keep saying 'Gabecube'? Is it an actual product or are you making fun of GameCube?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I was hoping for a direct Index replacement, but there are definite advantages to making a headset capable of both - especially one that also seems like it can compete with Meta as a standalone system.

    My two hopes are that the one with the smaller storage will be cheap enough to compete with other PC VR headsets (which does seem like the plan), and that using it plugged in is viable. It's built to be modular, so there's plenty of room for modding later like adding features, so the price will be the make or break, I think.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Not only is it Standalone, it has a linux emulator that can run pc games.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    What other people haven't quite touched on is that the in-built system certainly won't be powerful enough to run demanding VR games with good frame rates and resolution.

    I also have my doubts about the 6GHz WiFi connection being enough for it, I hope there is also a wired option.

    But it will be awesome to be able to do normal tasks like coding, writing, etc.. outside in the garden, as an example. I think for people that don't have a dedicated VR space, this could be awesome with 6GHz WiFi outside without needing base stations.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    5 Ghz 866 Mbps wifi is 8x more than enough to comfortably run wireless streaming to a Quest 2 with 8-9ms lag, which is almost completely imperceptible when in play. 6 Ghz is more than enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Don't forget, it's kind of multiple WiFi connections.

    I'm cautiously optimistic, from a sheer speed standpoint, it could be faster than most wired connections available over short ranges. It's not going to actually reach optimal speeds likely ever, but the few who have seen it in action seem optimistic about it too.

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