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How i feel on Lemmy (programming.dev)
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[–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

America is very close to being real market economy, that's why it sucks so much.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    And that's why we have barriers to entry stifling competition lobbied for by the big players in said industry? Insulin is only the price it is because the government enforces the patent that says pfizer is allowed to have a monopoly on it, if other people were able to produce and sell affordable generics pfizer would have to drop their price or go out of business, but if you try the government comes, kidnaps you, and if you resist kidnapping, kills you.

    Try to sell a product that the government decides you owe them money for: Weed? Jail. Moonshine? Jail. Weed in a legal state but didn't break off the 50% protection money to the government? Jail. Unlicensed insulin? Jail. Drawing of a mouse too close to a famous one? Jail.

    The US has what is called crony capitalism, not free market capitalism. Free market capitalism economy is what the Agorists like SEKIII want (but they refuse to call capitalism arguing that "real capitalism" is crony capitalism and "free market economies" are not "capitalist" at all and is actually leftist in nature.)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Crony capitalism is just capitalism. The agorist free market capitalism is just starting the whole thing over under the mistaken belief that it’ll end up different.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yes yes and communism will never repeat it's past mistakes because that wasn't real communism, I know.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I know you’re trying to use sarcasm, but communist countries don’t generally repeat the mistakes of other communist countries. They famously at least try to share knowledge openly with each other.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Hey at least millions of people die in new mistakes! Or is that all "western propaganda товарищ?"

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    what are you talking about? I can’t read cyrillic, what’s that last word?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    If "they don't repeat old mistakes" (like communist china not starving Ukranians, for instance), millions of people still die (like communist china killing all the sparrows, for instance), but at least the despots killed all those people in a different way! The last bit is the usual refutation from lemmygradniks, that all of that never happened, as it was just western propaganda, and then I threw in the russian word for commrade for extra sarcasm.

    You really gotta get out more if you haven't had those arguments with those crazy bastards, though they are on "your team" (at least the one you're defending, communism) so I'd imagine you don't argue with them often as it were.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The prc and ussr both had famines, yeah. One of the greatest tragedies of the sino soviet split is the lack of cooperation during the chinese one.

    I don’t know what people told you, but there absolutely was a ton of misinformation about the soviet famine that got revealed once 1992 rolled around and the archives opened up. Turned out they had some terrible fuckups and bad luck but there wasn’t any deliberate starvation.

    Communists argue about this stuff all the time, we just recognize people trying to understand conflicting information versus people trying to have a big fight or a debate. Part of the reason you get so much flak is because someone interested in learning how to understand conflicting information will gladly read a two hundred page analysis of a four hundred page historical text and discuss it openly while a person looking for a fight will call names and act like bringing up the famines is some gotcha that unmasks the internet communist for the scooby doo villian they are.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago

    Long form holodomor denial? Good look lol. Now do the Armenian Genocide, and follow up with "that wasn't real communism" and we'll hit 'em all!

    So you really think that the communists I talk to are usually genocide denialists because I'm clearly not communist and not interested in listening to pages of genocide denial, so the communists who aren't genocide denialists won't talk to me? Maybe that's the problem, but it isn't a "me" problem, it's a "communists who don't deny their atrocities" problem, they should again be "louder" than their "not numerous" compatriots. Every 50th (ykwim) one I get will actually admit those failings, but then they usually still want to kill a bunch of people now which I also sorta kinda have a problem with. Murder is wrong even if you dehumanize your enemy sufficiently and feel justified, self defense is one thing but that easily gets twisted from reality to fit their revenge fantasies, and I'm really just not about it.

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  • [+] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    According to https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking for instance, there are 24 countries in the world with freer economy than USA.

    The right wing, climate change denying, Heritage Foundation is not a reliable source. That's nowhere near an unbiased analysis, but an opinion piece. No one can seriously believe the US to be less "free market" than like half of western Europe.

    That's like asking the North Korean government to create an index of democracy.

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