▲ 781 ▼ Heavily armed paramilitary illegally entered the wrong residence, without a warrant in Portland, OR, terrorized a family with a baby, destroyed a large portion of the house and disappeared all men (cdn.social.linux.pizza) submitted 9 months ago* by CubitOom@infosec.pub to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world 149 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source
[+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 9 months ago (1 child) America was founded on the principles that all people are created equal, and we have the God-given human rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Our nation seemed to abandon those principles almost from the start, but they are still worthy principles upon which to base a nation, and IF the Forces of Good manage to wrest power away from the MAGA Evil, we need to reconfigure our nation to truly honor the promise of those Founding Principles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] massacre@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (3 children) Stop with this messaging. Many Americans fought those bullshit anti native and anti black/brown laws and thinking and this is the death throws of an ignorant but very vocal minority. They would have disappeared under the rug if not for VERY wealthy and manipulative people making them feel like their terrible views were justified instead of socially bankrupt. All to enrich and empower those evil wealthy people. They don't care about race, just distracting idiots from wealth inequality. America has done a lot of good in the world. We just got a wake up call that the fight against racism and hate and bigotry of our past will flare up if we are not diligent. I got my future in laws to stop saying the N word which was rampant in their language and while they never said it around me ever again I also know that percolated with shame into other conversations. America is full of loving and welcoming people. We've just got gobs of money and constant messaging trying to convince us to go back to the 50s. We weren't ALWAYS like this and we WILL defeat this and progress. The constant negativity is strangling. Please change your mindset. The average american is not the average Trump Nazi cultist.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago (1 child) The Founding Fathers set up a durable and highly respected system of governance, and are widely celebrated for that. They were also slave owners, and are widely condemned for that. People are complicated, and accepting that the same person leaves both positive and negative legacies is important to understanding them. Denying and suppressing the bad parts of our history is unhelpful. Accepting the bad parts and trying to learn from them gives us the best shot at doing better in the future. We can both celebrate the good legacies of our country and at the same time acknowledge the bad ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago I agree we need to understand it all. And i certainly touched on this. OP, however was only denigrating and not educating. It was 100% negative. I'm guessing you'd agree that's not helpful either. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent [–] zululove@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago Rare positive and hopeful message in 2025? Thank you bro please don’t stop man if we all talked like this man would we even be in this situation? Instead we just mog our opps online.. it has created such a divide. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I'm not telling myself anything. Go back and read the first 2 words of your OWN sentence: "The government". I'm not the government and most americans are appalled at shit like this. So my point still stands. Or should we just lump all Canadians in as racist shitbags because Canada's government has committed atrocious acts with indiginous. So has Australia and don't even get started on the African continent with the Dutch, French, English, etc. get out of here with this or at least repurpose this to something useful. We all should look through the lens of history and the US is no saint by any stretch, but there are many, MANY positive things our people and even yes our govenment have contributed to the world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago That and the eugenics movement. His Aktion T4 plan was inspired by the American eugenics movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 13 points 9 months ago (1 child) America was founded on the principles that all people are created equal, and we have the God-given human rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Our nation seemed to abandon those principles almost from the start, but they are still worthy principles upon which to base a nation, and IF the Forces of Good manage to wrest power away from the MAGA Evil, we need to reconfigure our nation to truly honor the promise of those Founding Principles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] massacre@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (3 children) Stop with this messaging. Many Americans fought those bullshit anti native and anti black/brown laws and thinking and this is the death throws of an ignorant but very vocal minority. They would have disappeared under the rug if not for VERY wealthy and manipulative people making them feel like their terrible views were justified instead of socially bankrupt. All to enrich and empower those evil wealthy people. They don't care about race, just distracting idiots from wealth inequality. America has done a lot of good in the world. We just got a wake up call that the fight against racism and hate and bigotry of our past will flare up if we are not diligent. I got my future in laws to stop saying the N word which was rampant in their language and while they never said it around me ever again I also know that percolated with shame into other conversations. America is full of loving and welcoming people. We've just got gobs of money and constant messaging trying to convince us to go back to the 50s. We weren't ALWAYS like this and we WILL defeat this and progress. The constant negativity is strangling. Please change your mindset. The average american is not the average Trump Nazi cultist.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago (1 child) The Founding Fathers set up a durable and highly respected system of governance, and are widely celebrated for that. They were also slave owners, and are widely condemned for that. People are complicated, and accepting that the same person leaves both positive and negative legacies is important to understanding them. Denying and suppressing the bad parts of our history is unhelpful. Accepting the bad parts and trying to learn from them gives us the best shot at doing better in the future. We can both celebrate the good legacies of our country and at the same time acknowledge the bad ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago I agree we need to understand it all. And i certainly touched on this. OP, however was only denigrating and not educating. It was 100% negative. I'm guessing you'd agree that's not helpful either. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent [–] zululove@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago Rare positive and hopeful message in 2025? Thank you bro please don’t stop man if we all talked like this man would we even be in this situation? Instead we just mog our opps online.. it has created such a divide. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I'm not telling myself anything. Go back and read the first 2 words of your OWN sentence: "The government". I'm not the government and most americans are appalled at shit like this. So my point still stands. Or should we just lump all Canadians in as racist shitbags because Canada's government has committed atrocious acts with indiginous. So has Australia and don't even get started on the African continent with the Dutch, French, English, etc. get out of here with this or at least repurpose this to something useful. We all should look through the lens of history and the US is no saint by any stretch, but there are many, MANY positive things our people and even yes our govenment have contributed to the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago (1 child) The Founding Fathers set up a durable and highly respected system of governance, and are widely celebrated for that. They were also slave owners, and are widely condemned for that. People are complicated, and accepting that the same person leaves both positive and negative legacies is important to understanding them. Denying and suppressing the bad parts of our history is unhelpful. Accepting the bad parts and trying to learn from them gives us the best shot at doing better in the future. We can both celebrate the good legacies of our country and at the same time acknowledge the bad ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago I agree we need to understand it all. And i certainly touched on this. OP, however was only denigrating and not educating. It was 100% negative. I'm guessing you'd agree that's not helpful either. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] massacre@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago I agree we need to understand it all. And i certainly touched on this. OP, however was only denigrating and not educating. It was 100% negative. I'm guessing you'd agree that's not helpful either. Thanks permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zululove@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago Rare positive and hopeful message in 2025? Thank you bro please don’t stop man if we all talked like this man would we even be in this situation? Instead we just mog our opps online.. it has created such a divide. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] massacre@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I'm not telling myself anything. Go back and read the first 2 words of your OWN sentence: "The government". I'm not the government and most americans are appalled at shit like this. So my point still stands. Or should we just lump all Canadians in as racist shitbags because Canada's government has committed atrocious acts with indiginous. So has Australia and don't even get started on the African continent with the Dutch, French, English, etc. get out of here with this or at least repurpose this to something useful. We all should look through the lens of history and the US is no saint by any stretch, but there are many, MANY positive things our people and even yes our govenment have contributed to the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] massacre@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago I'm not telling myself anything. Go back and read the first 2 words of your OWN sentence: "The government". I'm not the government and most americans are appalled at shit like this. So my point still stands. Or should we just lump all Canadians in as racist shitbags because Canada's government has committed atrocious acts with indiginous. So has Australia and don't even get started on the African continent with the Dutch, French, English, etc. get out of here with this or at least repurpose this to something useful. We all should look through the lens of history and the US is no saint by any stretch, but there are many, MANY positive things our people and even yes our govenment have contributed to the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago That and the eugenics movement. His Aktion T4 plan was inspired by the American eugenics movement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktion_T4 permalink fedilink source parent