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New Jetbrains Update Dropped (programming.dev)
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[–] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Is it time to go back to the plugin-hell called Eclipse?

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    It is NEVER time to go back to the hell that is Eclipse.

    Go to frigging notepad or kedit before Eclipse.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago*

    Well if you want a real world comparison:

    We migrated a project a few years ago from Eclipse to IntelliJ. Outcome:

    • Complains about the IDE dropped from around 10 per day to nearly 0
    • Onboarding people now takes 1h instead of a day, because IntelliJ knows how to store configuration in a project
    • IntelliJ has a built in updater and nearly everything works after an update
    • IDE Fuckups: 1 per week (Eclipse) -> 1 per year (IntelliJ)
      • Somehow still happend? Just click "Delete caches and restart" in IntelliJ
    • No sources and javadoc for a library available? Eclipse: Have fun reading bytecode; IntelliJ: Yeah I just decompiled it for you within 10s

    So yeah I wouldn't recommend going back into hell. Even VSCode and it's forks are likely better at this point.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You can't imagine how happy am I to have never jumped the wagon. To either VSCode or to anything from JetBrains. Began using eclipse on my uncle's computer back in ~2010. And just never left.

    It followed me through c++, java for uni classes and Python. It followed me when I switched to Linux. I'll bring it to my grave if it keeps going.

    Is it the best? Nope. But it's fucked up consistently enough for me to get used to it well enough.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Are you for real? I seriously cannot imagine anyone willingly using Eclipse.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Willingly is a strong word. More of a "this shitbox is the only thing I know how to use well". It's been my first window into programming. And at the time my uncle used it for work. So he taught me how to get around the mess.

    Also I'm quite sure Eclipse played a big role in why I despise Java with every atom of my being.

    I've tired switching to VSCode. But my peewee brain doesn't process how to use it. It tries to default to the way I use Eclipse. I've started managing to rattle off some programs with micro+clang. That seems to be the easiest way out for me. Considering I don't program for a living.

    I feel like an accountant refusing to let go of it's MS-DOS based software ffs.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair, the community edition IDEs from Jetbrains are open source and any telemetry is optional.

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