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Fact : what's really behind the Swiss E-ID (lemmy.ml)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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End of September, Switzerland will vote for E-ID. A big threat for our privacy as it will widely used for tons of new use cases.

Behind the government pitch of an "open source project, completely optional" hides big tech industry... Which will make it mandatory to access their services.

What are your thoughts on that ?

#Switzerland #Privacymatters

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[–] 20 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Am I witnessing democracy right now ? Wow it's like people collectively decide about key topics, amazing. Go Switzerland !

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  • [+] [S] -13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    It's not real democracy as the government motivate people to vote yes or no, and the government is completely corrupted. But yeah, it looks close to a democracy

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    You're just spoiled.

    Switzerland is the only country that I know has direct democracy. The others have indirect democracies where you vote politicians (or parties here in Slovakia) and they decide on your behalf what they want.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Agee there's kinda direct democracy. But check out, its public. How many top level politics are paid by insurances ? 50-80 people ?^^

    For me a democracy is a government not funded by private companies.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You are not required to vote. You will not be punished if you abstain from your vote. You are completely free to chose "yes" or "no" based on your own judgings.

    Isn't that exactly what democracy is about?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Who decides what I'm voting yes or no on?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    There are two basic scenarios:

    1. The legislative authority is drafting a new law. This law can be challenged and will then be voted on (this is the case for the E-ID law)
    2. A suggestion for a new law can be raised by citizens. This law will then be voted on.
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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    The thing is plenty of politics are paid by insurances and other big companies. Those people influence most of the voters which makes it unbalanced

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Indeed, the lobbying is nasty and the party financing is not as transparent as it could be.

    But discrediting the whole system as undemocratic because of those "minor flaws" is just not fair IMO.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe not all the system is corrupted, but when I found that Switzerland just follow the rules defined by the open wallet forum in this case. I've doubts

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Do you have the same issue with the W3C or the Wifi Alliance?

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