Because guilty until proven innocent.

Don't get me wrong, there are huge problems both with (parts of) male culture normalizing sexual harrassment and barriers to reporting of sexual assault, but none of that means that it isn't expected that some amount of it goes unpunished so we don't punish anyone innocent. Believe the victim doesn't mean you instantly condemn the accused, it means you support the victim with their problems and don't start questioning everything outside of court. (Money/power also probably plays a big role in how many high profile cases that seem pretty clear go unpunished, but I don't need to explain that to lemmy of all places).

So anything suggesting that less than 100% of accusations leading to convictions leaves a horrible taste.

Because if you falsely accuse me of a crime and im looking at jail time, we have a problem that is going to turn violent very fast. Im a firm believer in persuing rapists. It is in no way paradoxical for me to say that is would be unfair for my innocence should be presumptive.

I can only assume that people advocating for the blanket belief of woman victims must all be women, because how are you possibly going to put yourself in a situation where half of the people around you can simoly say three words and your entire life is over. As it stands now, any woman who walks into my buisness could accuse me of rape and i would lose my family, my job, and likely my house. Literally half of the people i interact with could end my life.

Its funny, theres a parallel with that last sentence that id be lacking to not bring up. But when when its in the context of half of the people you meet being able to physically end your life, thats a problem.

The only thing people are advocating for here is eliminating the double standard. Everyone should be presumed innocent in any type of crime, because at least for me im not serving time for a crime i didnt commit without taking everyone else involved down.

Edit: yeah, so as expected, i had a couple decent discussions with people. As soon as they realised they were wrong, they got offended and started name calling, completely dropping any attempt at pretending they stand for something other than hate. Pretty fuckin cringe

The manosphere hate to acknowledge women as victims, and love to identify as one themselves

Idk isn't people getting disgusted and defensive when put in the same group as rapists and pedophiles a good thing?

Imagine the alternative where men are just fine with it or even start making jokes about it like the male communities in other apps. I would just abandon lemmy.