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The Idol of Half of USA (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[–] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

People keep pointing out stuff like this but a country that has even the barest amount of collective sanity wouldn’t have even let him get beyond the party primary. 25% is a staggering number. Ya’ll I know that it still matters to say it and I’m not saying to stop but I keep hearing it in a context that heavily implies the rest of the world is ignorant for “not getting it” when we definitely already know there are good people in the US. Like, yea, you’ve got a handful of decent people but even your large number of “moderates” are capitalist Nazi sympathizers so…

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    most moderate voters don't care about any of that.

    they just wanted lower taxes and want to go back to the 2016-2019 economy that he represented. average voters primary vote on their wallets first and foremost. everything else is irrelevant.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    So they were all terribly informed, were totally ok with all the bad stuff he promised he would do, and wanted a bad economy? I mean how does that sound like an excuse to you? Moderates ignoring all the bad stuff just to get something weak and crappy is most of the point that I was making.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    It's not an excuse. It's reality.

    People had two choices last election. Someone who offered more of the same, Harris, or someone who offered at least some sort of change.

    They went with the person who offered at least some sort of change. Call them Nazi sympathizers all you want, I guess? Shaming and attacking people for their voting as being evil people isn't going to get them to come over to your side. If anything it will just make them dig their heels in.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    I could promise to do nothing to you OR promise to stab you in the gut. If you choose the latter because you want “change” and don’t care about what it actually is then you’re just an idiot who shouldn’t be making decisions.

    Everything was on the table and extremely obvious. If getting centrists on the right side of history is more dependent on making them feel good and special than on getting them to just make the obviously right choices then everything is already fucked and they’re just going to keep moving the goalposts as they see what they can get away with. Everyone who “just wants change” will never vote far left, only far right, and that’s pretty fucking telling.

    If you’re on the fence when Donald Trump is one of the options there’s no fucking help for you and I’m not going to sit here comforting your awful decision so you can feel like a special little baby.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (2 children)

    It was to you. Other people aren't you. What is obvious to you, isn't obvious to other people.

    This is where you are failing to understand the issue. Other people are not you. They don't think like you do. They don't reason like you do. They are entirely different than you.

    Be angry about it all you want. It won't change the facts that other people's votes, or non votes, count as much as yours and there isn't a thing you can do about it. But hey, it probably makes you feel like you're special, right?

    Everything was on the table and extremely obvious. If getting centrists on the right side of history is more dependent on making them feel good and special than on getting them to just make the obviously right choices then everything is already fucked and they’re just going to keep moving the goalposts as they see what they can get away with. Everyone who “just wants change” will never vote far left, only far right, and that’s pretty fucking telling.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    If other people can look at Donald Trump and the Republicans of the last few years and still be on the fence then it doesn’t matter if they’re me or not, they’re at best very stupid but more likely they’re at least a little ok with all the terrible things they promised to do and that is pathetic behaviour I will never compromise on. That’s all I’ve been saying, and I don’t know why you seem to think that means I don’t understand the issue.

    I’m not compromising with people who think that the basic human rights of minorities and working folk are optional. They can get their shit together or take a fucking hike and I’m not giving any validity to their willingness to throw peoples’ lives away just so the price of the groceries will still go up.

    You don’t have the moral highground, you’re just terrified of having a strong opinion and so place yourself somewhere you can claim not to be “extreme”.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago

    it doesn’t matter if they’re me or not, they’re at best very stupid but more likely they’re at least a little ok with all the terrible things they promised to do and that is pathetic behaviour I will never compromise on.

    This is precisely how I feel about people who still support the democrats after they supported and enabled the modern holocaust.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago

    Agreed entirely. Most people are so fucking stupid, they couldn’t even be considered conscious.

    While it may SEEM most other humans have that trait, I’m not so sure any more. Most of us are just cancerous tumors; growing by consuming the host without thought about what that means for them at the end.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    large number of “moderates” are capitalist Nazi sympathizers so…

    What an embarrassingly ignorant thing to say.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    If you look at literally anything the GOP is doing and are still on the fence you’re either impossibly ignorant or at least evil-adjacent and pretty ok with it. Being “moderate” in US politics is embarrassing as even the US “far left” is just the developed world’s center.

    A US moderate is a joke.

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