Truthfully though, i think a lot of those people are ok with either. They don't view politics as making any difference in their day-to-day lives and/or may be too busy or otherwise engaged to pay attention to the news (or perhaps even disinterested!). I know some people who are more or less apolitical. They don't talk about politics, they don't think about politics, and they don't seem overly concerned since Trump took office again. That's just in my small orbit though -- there are millions of people out there that have much different views than most of us here.

I sometimes think we get wrong idea about how popular are views/beliefs are because we're hanging out in an echo chamber to some degree.

It’s easy to say, but when you live in states like Mississippi or California, voting is pointless. So many do care, but know that their presence in the voting booth is pointless.

No, he won with a plurality of voters, not over half of them.

Yeah, people always bring that up like it's a positive thing. It's not something to be proud of.

Still a majority though isn’t it?

It's a plurality, if we're being pedantic. But yes, this is America's disease. We worshiped at the feet of capitalism and it birthed a twisted avatar to lead us that not only embodies all of the worst aspects of our society but actively seeks to expand them - greed, xenophobia, callousness, arrogance, hypocrisy, and violence.

What trap?

I thought I was very clear - I'm not accusing him of cheating in the 2024 election, however... I understand the metaphorical prisoner's dilemma that Trump was in, and the most optimal strategy was simply to cheat.

You don't think a convicted felon winning every swing state is just a bit suspicious? Especially considering 4 years earlier he failed to capture that same electorate?

You don't think him going up on stage afterwards and praising Elon Musk for his knowledge of voting machines wasn't suspicious?

You don't think him telling a crowd of his supporters that they won't have to vote anymore isn't just a bit suspicious?

We all know that every single one of Trump's accusations is simply projection. He presumes that everyone operates on the same frequency as he does and will preemptively accuse them of the same bad behavior he is responsible for.

He zeroed in on mail-in ballots during the 2020 campaign, because that's how he tried to cheat - to get states to throw out mail-in ballots that overwhelmingly skewed Democratic.

So he wins in 2024 and what does he do? Immediately says the opponent cheated by rigging vote machines. Hmm, gee I wonder what put that idea in his head?

I'm not going to be beholden to this "high road" horseshit anymore. I'll call a spade a fucking spade when I see it.