▲ 373 ▼ on terrorism (lemmy.ml) submitted 11 months ago by sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml to c/tenforward@lemmy.world 49 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] j4k3@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] waz@feddit.uk 23 points 11 months ago (2 children) Que? Terrorists didn’t exist before ‘01? The IRA being the most famous organisation probably in English speaking territories through the 70s and into the 00s wouldn’t be part of their history being from earth? I’m confused permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Maybe they are young? It certainly existed before 01. But it was after 9/11 that it became a buzzword that was over applied constantly. Like some guy shoots up his office? Terrorism? No he’s just a nut. Traditionally terrorism had some kind of political or social component to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Of course it did. After 2001 every white nutball used terrorist as a synonym for pretty much any male from the middle east. But then again the rightwingers who show up in masks with guns to harass gay pride events, or who were sending threats and intimidating poll workers in 2020 and 2024 would simply be called patriots by the same group of white nut balls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] j4k3@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) I recall the IRA was framed differently from within the USA. It was a religious thing. Like some kind of continuation of the American Revolution, or some insanity like that. It also probably justified US meddling elsewhere in the world to similar effect. Gaddafi's supply of arms is exactly the same kind of thing as the US did in many other places. So labeling that activity terrorist in the media might be politically inconvenient in the USA. It is only terrorism if you're the country on the receiving end, freedom fighters on the other, and political calculus from outside. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] waz@feddit.uk 23 points 11 months ago (2 children) Que? Terrorists didn’t exist before ‘01? The IRA being the most famous organisation probably in English speaking territories through the 70s and into the 00s wouldn’t be part of their history being from earth? I’m confused permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Maybe they are young? It certainly existed before 01. But it was after 9/11 that it became a buzzword that was over applied constantly. Like some guy shoots up his office? Terrorism? No he’s just a nut. Traditionally terrorism had some kind of political or social component to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Of course it did. After 2001 every white nutball used terrorist as a synonym for pretty much any male from the middle east. But then again the rightwingers who show up in masks with guns to harass gay pride events, or who were sending threats and intimidating poll workers in 2020 and 2024 would simply be called patriots by the same group of white nut balls. permalink fedilink source parent [–] j4k3@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) I recall the IRA was framed differently from within the USA. It was a religious thing. Like some kind of continuation of the American Revolution, or some insanity like that. It also probably justified US meddling elsewhere in the world to similar effect. Gaddafi's supply of arms is exactly the same kind of thing as the US did in many other places. So labeling that activity terrorist in the media might be politically inconvenient in the USA. It is only terrorism if you're the country on the receiving end, freedom fighters on the other, and political calculus from outside. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Maybe they are young? It certainly existed before 01. But it was after 9/11 that it became a buzzword that was over applied constantly. Like some guy shoots up his office? Terrorism? No he’s just a nut. Traditionally terrorism had some kind of political or social component to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Of course it did. After 2001 every white nutball used terrorist as a synonym for pretty much any male from the middle east. But then again the rightwingers who show up in masks with guns to harass gay pride events, or who were sending threats and intimidating poll workers in 2020 and 2024 would simply be called patriots by the same group of white nut balls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) Of course it did. After 2001 every white nutball used terrorist as a synonym for pretty much any male from the middle east. But then again the rightwingers who show up in masks with guns to harass gay pride events, or who were sending threats and intimidating poll workers in 2020 and 2024 would simply be called patriots by the same group of white nut balls. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) I recall the IRA was framed differently from within the USA. It was a religious thing. Like some kind of continuation of the American Revolution, or some insanity like that. It also probably justified US meddling elsewhere in the world to similar effect. Gaddafi's supply of arms is exactly the same kind of thing as the US did in many other places. So labeling that activity terrorist in the media might be politically inconvenient in the USA. It is only terrorism if you're the country on the receiving end, freedom fighters on the other, and political calculus from outside. permalink fedilink source parent
