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Starmer says no [Scottish] independence referendum while he is prime minister (www.bbc.co.uk)
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Added context is mine. Its like he wants the SNP to take over Holyrood next year. Not doing his little Englander image any good in Scotland with comments like this, just another colonialist

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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That’s a bold word to use, considering Scotland got started on colonialism before England did, and the Scotch were the most vigorously committed members of the colonial service and military.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Didnae say we weren't. Wouldn't use that word to describe us today. Unlike Starmer

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Scotch is a bold word to use when trying to take the moral high ground, you xenophobe.

    Can you provide a source for your claim of being the most vigorously committed members or are you just talking out your arse?

    The first English overseas expansion occurred as early as 1169, when the Norman invasion of Ireland began to establish English possessions in Ireland, with thousands of English and Welsh settlers arriving in Ireland.[3] As a result of this the Lordship of Ireland was claimed for centuries by the English monarch

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_overseas_possessions

    Scotland's colonialism began in the 1600s, quite a bit later than the 1100s...

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Chaps like Henry Dundas (literally put upon a pedestal, and former head of the EIC) made a vast amount of wealth that was used to build Scottish cities, found its banks and institutions. Scotland was obsessed with education, and what the educated did was they got work administering colonial affairs. And of course, the very enthusiastic colonisation of Ireland.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So literally nothing that the English and Welsh didn't also do. We were all bastards.

    Olap's mention of Starmer being a colonialist is because he is outright denying the chance of a democratic process, regardless of what the Scottish electorate desire, like a colonialist would do. Not to mention his support for Israel, a true modern colonial power.

    Maybe think next time before you go running to defend an antidemocratic genocide supporter and keep your bigotry to yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not to mention his support for Israel,

    What support?

    We stopped weapons sales and condemned them, have called for a two-state solution, and their leader is calling Starmer an anti-Semite.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    That is a very recent change, his stance until just a few weeks ago has been very pro-Israel. Even now, his stance is the weakest form of condemnation possible, from an ex human rights lawyer, for what is an atrocity on par with the likes of the holocaust and holodomor.

    This documentary gives more information about Starmer's faction in Labour's weaponisation of "antisemitism":

    https://youtu.be/elp18OvnNV0

    Other related information:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_work_of_the_Labour_Party%27s_Governance_and_Legal_Unit_in_relation_to_antisemitism,_2014%E2%80%932019

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25214288.keir-starmer-confronted-uk-claim-no-genocide-gaza/

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago

    I presume therefore as such a passionate advocate for democracy that, if Scotland became independent, you would support a decennial referendum on joining the UK? Or is only the “right” result worthy of being deemed a democratic process?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Scotch is a drink.

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